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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Paint Opinions Needed

So work with my Camaro is moving slow but faster then expected. I just got it street legal besides the fact that it doesn't have an exhaust yet. But that's getting done with in the week. I actually found a shop that specializes in custom modifying and such with all sorts of vehicles and they are willing to day a T-top conversion on my 88 Camaro for a damn good price. I know the guy who owns it...me and his wife rode horses together in rodeo and competed so I am getting a good deal. And they do some damn good work they work on a lot of limos and other vehicles. But anyway. Things are moving slightly more rapid then I thought. So I am not doing the lime green airbrush flames because I do not have the time to learn it or the money to buy what I need for that at the moment. But that does not mean I have given up on it. I do plan to still learn just not as quick because of all this work that I want done all at once. This Camaro is going in for the t-top conversion in April. So I of course want it painted quickly after that so now damage is done to the exposed metal.

I was going to do a lime green metallic or kandy color for the most part of the body...then black racing stripes...and the ground effects will be black. And maybe the dips where the headlights are will be black. My question is with everything I am putting on it...would it look right? Is it too much? Or what have you. I am putting a Daytona 2" hood on it. I will have pics below of the hood. Now the blue camaro with white stripes is pretty much how mine is gonna look I was surprised to find this pic and I am keeping it to give me a better idea of how mine will look. And that's what I want yall's opinions on. Once again I do not own these cars its just for a reference.

There is another type of paint job I was thinking of doing but I don't know which one would look the best. I will post of pic of that one to. But just give me your honest opinion. Besides the fact that I should keep it strictly factory w/o the hood and spoiler because that's not changing. But if you guys have other easier designs that may look better feel free to post'em. I will also just for the hell of it will post a picture of the Spoiler that's going onto the car. But please give me all your opinions. Would really love to hear them.

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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Re: Paint Opinions Needed

Personally, I love the blue w/white stripes car.

As my car just got painted House of Kolor Kandy Teal - let me voice a few thoughts for consideration...

1) Greens in general - My car was factory teal green, and I wanted to remain teal green as I didn't have the money/time to strip the entire interior and engine bay to repaint another color, so I chose the HOK Kandy Teal, and don't get me wrong, I love it! But ... greens are very difficult colors to find matching "anything else" for. What I mean by "anyhting else" are things like matching fabrics, vinyls, etc. to do interior things, or finding green lights or leds, or finding matching model paints etc. in greens to do little mods and such with. For instance - I wanted a fabric ribbon 3/8 in wide to lay into the groove that my armrests have. I spent the better part of 10 weeks searching shops, the internet, ebay, ribbon manufacturers, etc etc, and spent probably $100 on items that looked good in pics and on the shelf, but when arrived home were just the wrong color green. Green is just one of those colors that's hard to match shades, as there are just so many different greens in the world. AND - green is no longer 'in-style' - it's hard to find green things at all anymore really.

2) Candy Paint - it's beautiful, I love all the candy's I've ever seen. But ... candies are difficult paints due to the fact that they are candy - their transperant paints. You have to have a perfectly uniform base coat of something underneath, otherwise you get splotches. For mine, the first coat was metallic silver - most do a metallic coat under candy's. So the painter really has to have the body prepped well, and uniform all over.

Since it's transperant, it has to be sprayed very uniformly all over in layers, until there are the right number of layers to get the 'hue' that you want. One more spray, and it's now darker. There's NO WAY to lighten it either - once it's on and that 'hue' shows, there's no turning back - so the painter has to really know what they are doing to get a nice uniform look, in the same 'hue", all over the car in it's entirety. Spray one extra layer or one layer heavier here than there, and you end up with a patch that's a different color.

The above also leads to having a hard time knowing exactly how many quarts or gallons you need - you ALWAYS have to get MORE paint than what you think you'll need, so that there's enough left over to spray one more coat if necessary in order to make the entire car the same color - make sense?

Given these principles, it's a real Beotch to ever fix if it gets chipped, dinged, scratched, etc. A large area has to be stripped down, and redone, and blended in as it's repainted to correct a fender bender.

Also, since it's transperant, different materials dry in different shades - ie the nose cone and the rear bumper - and it's difficult to match them well to the rest of the car. This happened to me - my nose cone was brand new, where as my rear bumper was original - the nose ended up lighter in color than the rest of the car. My painter has done some amazing things on cars, and he's used candy's before many times, and he had a real hard time with this new nose cone. In the end, he had to redo it, and in the process, sprayed one coat too many trying to match it to the car - meaning it now had to be lightened up, which is impossible. He did a great job in the end - he sprayed very lightly more silver flake on top of the candy then sprayed candy again to "lighten" it back, but it's not perfect - it is however a much closer match than it was the first time. His only other option would have been to totally restrip the nose cone and redo it, or else respray the entire car to match the now darker nose - and neither was an option since the paint was purchased over 1 year ago, there wasn't enough paint left over, and a new can of paint would be different mixture and thus a different 'hue' possibly.

Also, it ain't cheap! With reducers, catalysts, clear, etc - HOK got over $1200 out of me JUST on the cans themselves! The painter was a friend of a friend, and I'm into him for over $3k in labor for prep, fixing a rear quarter dent, and spraying - full price body shop would have charged me closer to $6k for the work.

BUT - don't take this as a "trying to talk you out of candy" post - I love the candy's and they are truly beautiful cars - but know up front the 'needs' of choosing a candy paint, and please please buy much more than you think you'll need. As a reference, I bought 5 quarts, should've bought 8 at least to have it for these issues I didn't know about.

For what it's worth, there's my

Let us know what you decide, and keep us posted!
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Re: Paint Opinions Needed

what abouit doing your strips like mine??

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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Paint Opinions Needed

Originally Posted by bigal's1991
what abouit doing your strips like mine??

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I like your stripes...my only concern is with the type of hood I am getting would it look right? I mean I don't want it to look cluttered or too clean (aka boring...no offense to anyone but my personality pops...so I want my car to pop). But the only other issue I have with it is that I wanted to paint the head light socket I guess you could say black and the stripes would be black and they look kinda close together.
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