Just got done waxing, have ?'s
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Just got done waxing, have ?'s
Ive got lots of swirl marks from the buffer i used, the pad was clean, and its not a super high speed buffer, it's made by makita, anway ive got lots of swirl marks that you can see from every angle, should i do a 2nd coat by hand to remove those marks, or is there somthing else i should do first, thanks !
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Some wax brands have abrasives in them which cause the swirl marks in your clear coat. Thats why I like mothers its clean doesnt break my bank and doesnt leave swirl marks.
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Originally posted by redbird_400
Some wax brands have abrasives in them which cause the swirl marks in your clear coat. Thats why I like mothers its clean doesnt break my bank and doesnt leave swirl marks.
Some wax brands have abrasives in them which cause the swirl marks in your clear coat. Thats why I like mothers its clean doesnt break my bank and doesnt leave swirl marks.
I thought you needed a slight abrasive to remove swirl marks?
Let me see if I can try to clear a few things up. True swirl marks are caused by buffing the paint with an abrasive "cleaner," such as rubbing compound, used to help remove scratches, water stains, etc. To remove these swirls, polish or a specific "swirl remover" can be used to restore the paint to a nice, smooth shine. Once this is done, the car would be given a coat or two of wax to protect the finish from the elements. Note that polish and wax are not the same thing; polish removes small imperfections and "shines" the paint, while wax protects it. That's why on older/imperfect paint, the only way to get the best results is to follow the 4 steps: wash, clean, polish, wax. Just don't use paint cleaning or polishing products more often than is reasonable, since they do remove paint (if only a tiny amount) in order to do their job.
Not a pro here, just speaking from some experience.
Not a pro here, just speaking from some experience.
Another thing: when waxing, I suggest using a real carnauba wax (pure wax), not the cleaner/waxes which do have abrasives in them as someone above stated. Take the time to do a good job, and you should be really happy with the results.
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Originally posted by Rice Eliminator
Another thing: when waxing, I suggest using a real carnauba wax (pure wax), not the cleaner/waxes which do have abrasives in them as someone above stated. Take the time to do a good job, and you should be really happy with the results.
Another thing: when waxing, I suggest using a real carnauba wax (pure wax), not the cleaner/waxes which do have abrasives in them as someone above stated. Take the time to do a good job, and you should be really happy with the results.
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Originally posted by Rice Eliminator
To remove these swirls, polish or a specific "swirl remover" can be used to restore the paint to a nice, smooth shine.
To remove these swirls, polish or a specific "swirl remover" can be used to restore the paint to a nice, smooth shine.
Originally posted by MetalliCamaroRS
I bought that $20 2600RPM random orbital buffer at WalMart and tried it out today with 3M Swirl Mark remover. Well.. the swirl marks are still there
I bought that $20 2600RPM random orbital buffer at WalMart and tried it out today with 3M Swirl Mark remover. Well.. the swirl marks are still there
Do you recomend a certain product? Should I Put it on with my Buffer?
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i agree with Mark A Shields. i had really nasty swirl marks on my car. i used a clay bar and it works awsome.
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