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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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I am new to this forum, and new to the Camaro!

Hello,

I am new to this forum, and I was looking for a Third Gen forum because it looks like that will be my first car! I never really thought that I would own one, but I ended up liking what they looked like, and I figure that I can do a decent amount of things to it.

It is a 1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS v6 3.2(or 3.1, not sure can't remember hehe) liter. Anyway, you guys know what it is.

Ok, The exterior needs some work. But, Really all it needs is paint. There are no dents, scratches(that I can see), and just minor rust. I figure that can be sanded out(it is on the roof, right on top of where the door is. It is really not bad, so I dont think that will pose as a problem

The interior is not horrible, but could use help. The seats seem to have seat covers on them at the moment, but it does not look like the original seats are all that bad. The dashboard(top), needs some serious help. I don't know how much that would be to fix though. There are just a whole bunch of cracks and splits. But, I am not worrying too much about that.

Are these cars fairly quick? or are they slow? I mean, I have not drove it yet (I will be next week). But, I have no idea really.

Some of the mods I would like to do:

Exterior: Paint Black(it is red atm). I would like to get a hood for it(I have not decided which though). I was thinking of maybe getting white stripes or something. Then, I was thinking of maybe getting some 17 or 18 inch chrome corvette rims (look a likes if they have them). They would not have to say or have the corvette symbol at all. Just the look. Then I was thinking of getting it lowered a little bit. No a whole lot, but enough where it would look sweet.

Interior: I was thinking all black interior. I was thinking possibly a 4th generation camaro interior. With Black Leather Seats, dash board, and center console. Then, possiblea black carpet. Although, it is red at the moment, so I might go with the center console, dash, and then some red racing seats. Not sure yet though.

System: I would like to put a deck in, and some TVs. Then, I would like to have subs in the back.

That just about sums it up.

Please post your comments. And, what do you think this will run me(not counting the paintjob). The paintjob I am not sure exactly what I want to do at the moment. I am thinking of going with a $700 one or something.

Brian
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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How many miles are on that baby?
Congradulations on it. I have never owned a v6 thirdgen, but I don't imagine that they are that fast. A good paint job may be a little more then that unless you do all of the prep work. As for the dash, you may be out of luck. You may be able to find a dash on ebay for about $75. Or try looking in a junkyard for some of your stuff. As for the price of some of the appearence mods that you described, it will definately run you in the thousands. Anyways, good luck to you on your project.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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From: "No one cares if you're in before the lock!" - Best quote ever.
The V6's are boats....(2.8 here..for now...) however, as a first car, it'll be awesome. You still get the feeling of torque when you romp on the gas (nothing like a 350, of course), and a stylish ride. More speed/bigger engines can always happen later anyways...welcome!
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Hello,

I got the car for $1,500. And it has 74,000 miles on it.

Well, those mods will definetly be over time.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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Welcome to the boards. I own a 2.8 v6 yeah it's not blazing fast compared to todays cars but that can be helped with a tune up and some other cheap modifications. I use to have a caramine red interior but I got rid of that when I fixed my SC back up and put a relativity brand new interior in. New carpet, 4th gen seats, very good int black panels, and a hatch shade. Also I'm a custom parts polisher and have fixed my engine compartment up a little bit but it gets dirty under there since I live down a 4.5 mile dirt road. Exterior wise I have polished a set of 85 Z28 rims for my car upgraded my taillight to the IROCs, 91-92 Z28/RS. Added a 87-90 3 piece spoiler, and 85-90 gfx's. And painted my car myself.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Nice, I got my 86 305 T/A for $2300 with 61,000 miles. It now has 72,000 It's my daily driver though and I have had it for a little over a year.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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BTW, where are you located?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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I live in South Florida.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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What is the difference between Iroc tail lights and RS Tail lights?

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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The 91-92 taillights for the RS were the same as the Z28's and 85-90 IROCs. The older style of lights for the RS the limited # of 88's,and when the RS became the base model camaro in 89-90 had tailights with one single stripe. I'll attach a pic of mine.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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question to 91customrs, why didnt you just wait till you could find one with a v8 in it? personally i think you woulda been a lot better off buying a 305 with a 5 speed or a 350 automatic, unless you hate getting crummy gas milage or something
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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question to 91customrs, why didnt you just wait till you could find one with a v8 in it? personally i think you woulda been a lot better off buying a 305 with a 5 speed or a 350 automatic, unless you hate getting crummy gas milage or something
To be perfectly honest with you, I was not planning on buying a camaro, but I am getting it for $1500. Also, I really just want a car with some pep or now, it is my first car. I am not used to rear wheel drive, and I dont want to have this extremely fast car.

I know the V8 engine is better, but that is not what I really wanted to get anyway.

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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hey man thats cool and all, but believe me, a camaro with a v8 is not an extremely fast car lol believe me i know i own one and its not all that fast! but driving rear wheel cars is alot of fun thats for sure, its just that ive driving in v6 camaros and man those things were dogs, but i guess if your more about appearance than go for it man, you could get a ss hood with maybe some chrome iroc rims then drop it a few inches, that would be sweet!
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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well, the V6 camaro aren't as bad as everyone says, they can move well enough, they just aren't suited for racing....I would compare them to a midsize sedan....anyways, sounds like you've got some great plans for the car, be sure to post pics....

I know the V8 engine is better, but that is not what I really wanted to get anyway.
the only good factory V8s were put in the Z28s (and B4C RS's), as the only V8 available in the 1992 RS was the L03, a 305 TBI motor, which is really not that big of a step up from the V6....although it does have more aftermarket potential.

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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I used to own a 92 bird with the 3.1 engine. It's no slouch - but you can't compare it to the L98. The car you got sounds like a good starter car. If you're anything like me - you'll love the look of the car and will want more power to go with it. Have fun
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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Welcome to the boards! What city are you in in Florida? I'm from Port Charlotte...
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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the 91 3.1 can barely edge out most 305 tbi cars is stock form but they can't be modded like the v-8 can just isn't the demand for 3.1 performance
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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hey...

I live in port charlotte(I got to lemon bay)

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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lol 3.1 barelly nudging out a 305 tbi, hmmm ok, last time i checked i ran a 15.4@92mph with just exhaust on my 89 camaro with the 305 tbi in it, ive dont recall any 3.1's with exhaust mods even coming close to running 15's, or 16's for the matter, but lets not start this into a v6 vrs v8 thread, just make sure you get your facts straight before you blurt out stuff alright guys
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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lol 3.1 barelly nudging out a 305 tbi, hmmm ok, last time i checked i ran a 15.4@92mph with just exhaust on my 89 camaro with the 305 tbi in it, ive dont recall any 3.1's with exhaust mods even coming close to running 15's, or 16's for the matter, but lets not start this into a v6 vrs v8 thread, just make sure you get your facts straight before you blurt out stuff alright guys
No, it's fact, the V8 is definatly a better motor, even with TBI, but the 3.1 isn't that far behind, I've raced a older LG4 and won by 1/2 a car length, there are some guys on the V6 board that can show up an L03 in a race, but that's about all you can effieciently pull out of the little anemic engine...

basically all we are saying is, the underpowered V6s can be made to do about as well as the underpowered V8s. (and yes the underpowered V8s can be made much much faster than the 60* v6s could ever dream of for way less money.)
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Ok,

Everyone is talking about these V8s going fast and everything. I am the one that is buying the V6, and I am 17. I was reading a post that someone was getting a V8 that was 16 and everyone was all over the kids back because he was getting a fast car. I am trying to go with a V6 to get a nice looking car, something I can do something with without getting myself killed. But at the same time has a car that has decent power, nothing overpowerful, I dont need a car that is pulling 15s or less at a track. I just want a nice looking car, that will get me from one place to another, that looks good, that will not get me killed. I am a new driver. I will admit it, I am not experienced yet, and I want to be able to drive a faster car when I get a little more experienced.

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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ive owned 2 v6 camaros, one was a 85 and i admit it was slow (it had major mechanical problems though) i got a 89 now, it is the fastest v6 ive drove, it seems just as powerful ata camaro with a 305..but thats just my opinion
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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dont worry i got a 3.1L v6 too. of course its "slow" compared to a v8 but its still has enough power to have some fun with. you can hit 70mph in a recpectible time but after then, it starts accelerating like a snail. of course i have TBI which is not helping. whats yours, tpi or tbi? did they make tpi v6's? make a custom cold air intake and throw a flowmaster on there, along with an overall tuneup, and you'll be cruising. have fun man
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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well maybe the kid i raced with a 3.1 in his 91 RS blew a cylinder or something cause my 84 certainly didn't have a problem beating it =)
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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actually tek viper im pretty sure the v6's only came with cross fire injection, not tbi or tpi, and to 91customRS, dude like i said before if you get a camaro with a v8 it doesnt mean your gonna kill yourself they are really not that much more powerful stock compared to the v6 ones, but think of it this way, if you do buy one with a v8, you can leave it stock until you want a faster car, then you can start moding it! how does that sound?
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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that is very true. I have never drove a camaro, any of them. So I cant say how fast either are. But tell me this though....

is this a good deal...

1991 Camaro RS V6....needs a paint job, needs some interior work (I want 4th gen interior)....for $1500....

also it has 74,000 miles

I am getting it from my brothers friend

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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yah it sounds like a good deal for sure, is there any dents in it, also what color is it/ what color are you going to paint it? oh btw if you do buy it, talk to me about 4th gen interior parts, i got the hook up
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Good deal, I payed 1900 for my sc in 99.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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damn all this time i thought it had tbi
guess i got some homework to do.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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Hi,

At the moment it is red, but I am going to be chaning it to black. Now, about the 4th gen interior....what do you have a hook up to? How much would it cost me to get a dash, console, and black leather seats?

Are they all easy to install, fairly easy.

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Also,

No, I did not see any dents.

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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the seats are no problem, they bolt right in as far as i know. but the center console needs a little modification i think. as for the dash, it takes a lot of work to get it in a thirdgen i think.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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actually tek viper im pretty sure the v6's only came with cross fire injection, not tbi or tpi,
actually, the 82-84 engines were carburated, and the 85-92 came with MPFI (multi port fuel injection)
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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No v6's came tbi'ed for the camaro but other gm vehicles got it instead of mpfi.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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no tbi, but zero is right, it came with mpfi, not cfi, oh well so shoot me, as for the 4th gen interior, seats bolt right in, center console is pretty easy to fit in there, the door panels need to be fabricated due to the fact that they have window swithes in them unlike thirdgens, dash fits in there its just a bitch, tell me what you need and when you need it and ill give you the lowdown
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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a lot of the speed and power difference in thirdgens is previous owner care, state of tune, and driver awareness of what the car can do. many thirdgen camaros aren't in very good shape (it seems a lot of tbi cars have this problem ) many of the v-6 cars are still in good shape because they were never meant to race and the previous owners knew it (even though us v-6ers try ) my v-6 actually ran a better 1/4th mile than CHP's 305 tpi just because it was in such a bad state of tune. what i'm really trying to say here is the first thing you should do is search for the "TomP Major Tune Up" on the boards, this is all you should have to do to get your car in excellent running shape for optimal performance and gas milage
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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my older thirdgen was a 2.8(my first car). i did a hell of a lot of engine work to it and more body work then id like to remember, but 3 months later i had my baby. it was decently fast(nothing compared to what my 91 will be), but its a good starter. i just wish i hadnt traded it off on a truck. i missed my baby from the moment she was gone . but its ok. good luck. remember, its always a good idea to post here. i dont know what id do with out all these guys' help :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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badandy you brought up a very good point, power for sure has alot to do with how well taken cared of the car was and if its in tune, back when my camaro was out of tune i was loosing races to sunfires and cavaliers, i couldnt understand it cuz i thought i should be able to squash them with my v8, but once i got it properly tuned, i havent lost any races since, ive even beaten a few tpi camaros, which alot of people dont believe, but i am also very gracious for this website, ive been through a lot of tuff times with my car and these guys on this site have gotten me through it
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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i cant find the tomP major tuneup thread, which one is it?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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i raced a friend of mine (he has a 88 camaro with a 305) i had my old 85 camaro with the v6 and he did win but not by alot, i woulda thought that car would tear mine up cause it was so badly outta tune...my 89 with the same motor will kick my old cars butt!! lol
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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you may have to search for tomp and pm him for a link or some copy of the list because the search feature on the site dosen't work quite as well as it used to
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