Xenon Headlights
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Xenon Headlights
Does anyone know if they make Xenon Headlights for Trans ams? i have an 87 GTA and i think xenon lights will look cool cause all the real expensive cars have them, If anyone knows where i can get them and know how much they are let me know
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The easiest thing would be to install a pair of Sylvania Silverstar bulbs. Thay have a sort-of HID look, the inner halogen capsules have the light blue filter, and the overall light output is very white.
Else, you can get a Sylvania Xenarc conversion kit, but they cost about $500, and IMO aren't worth it.
You can also get conversion kits where you get a sealed beam shell that accepts the 9000 series replacement capsules. I think you'd want to go with 9004 capsules which are a combined low/high beam. In the aftermarket, you can get high-wattage 9004 capsules for brighter lights, but technically they're illegal on the street.
Else, you can get a Sylvania Xenarc conversion kit, but they cost about $500, and IMO aren't worth it.
You can also get conversion kits where you get a sealed beam shell that accepts the 9000 series replacement capsules. I think you'd want to go with 9004 capsules which are a combined low/high beam. In the aftermarket, you can get high-wattage 9004 capsules for brighter lights, but technically they're illegal on the street.
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Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
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Originally posted by 91FIREBIRDGT
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
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It all depends on the bulbs you buy. I used to have the PIAA HIDs that were purple and they looked pretty darn close to the real things. I currently just have the blue bulbs that are from APC.
Actually Autozone is where I found the Pilot sealed beam conversions. for a very good price too. $40 for the pair of the Diamond back conversions.
Actually Autozone is where I found the Pilot sealed beam conversions. for a very good price too. $40 for the pair of the Diamond back conversions.
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found those on ebay under http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6777
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buy the silvania silverstars.....they are only 100K degrees behind a standard xenon HID, and cost about 25 bucks each...the sealed beam ones are a direct replacement for your stock headlights.....i put them in my truck, and they are amazing. its the whitest light you can possibly get without spending a fortune for an HID thats only slightly brighter.
heres a link to another thread i started about the silverstars when i first got them
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=160080
heres a link to another thread i started about the silverstars when i first got them
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=160080
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Do either of you guys know how much amperage those lights draw? Compared to stock? I'd really rather not melt any wires or switches running them after a period of time...
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Originally posted by Deemax
Do either of you guys know how much amperage those lights draw? Compared to stock? I'd really rather not melt any wires or switches running them after a period of time...
Do either of you guys know how much amperage those lights draw? Compared to stock? I'd really rather not melt any wires or switches running them after a period of time...
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I run Silverstars in my IROC. They pull about the same current as a stock lamp, so no worries about the harness. And, they are much whiter than a stock halogen. The Silverstar high beams are awesome. When it rains, I flip on the foglamps, in which I put gold-ion dichroic bulbs and I can see the wet road great.
When it's raining or in fog, you want a yellower light. The blue-white lights only work well when it's dry.
When it's raining or in fog, you want a yellower light. The blue-white lights only work well when it's dry.
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Well...I didn't go with the headlights....but..I replaced my foglights bulbs with a set of the xenon gas filled....and they are soooooo bright and intense...I love'em!
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Wow is all i have to say about the silver stars... i put a set in and will never go with anything else. Unbelievably brighter. Nuf' said.
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Silverstars do not have the "diamond cut" look. When they're turned off, they look just like a normal halogen lamp. If you look REAL close, you might be able to see that the capsules inside are blue coated. With that said, the light they put out is white, not blue. They're rated at being 4000k color temp, which is white. Trying to filter a halogen to an even higher temperature (like 6500 for example) like some other manufacturers do is a joke, as you're removing too much light. That blue coating if a filter and blue filters remove the longer wavelength light (reds) that would otherwise pass through.
Silverstars are bright. Not as bright as some of the aftermarket "high watt" (like 100 watt) bulbs. Brighter than cool blues.
One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
Silverstars are bright. Not as bright as some of the aftermarket "high watt" (like 100 watt) bulbs. Brighter than cool blues.
One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
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Originally posted by Tremo
One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
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I upgraded from Xtravisions to Silverstars. The call is yours. It's your car, your cash, your ability to see at night. You decide.
Sylvania's propaganda rates the Silverstars higher than cool blues. I guess the best way would be for you to find a buddy with Silverstars and compare one night.
Sylvania's propaganda rates the Silverstars higher than cool blues. I guess the best way would be for you to find a buddy with Silverstars and compare one night.
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the silverstars are MUCH brigher than cool blues, and work better in all weather conditions. I almost never use my highs anymore
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i was thinking about doing that, but i got a good deal on a set of silver stars- so it was cheaper.
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The easiest way to improve your wet weather lighting is to put the gold-ion-dichroic bulbs in the foglamps and USE THEM when it rains.
I bought a pair of the gold ion 885 bulbs from www.autooptiks.com and they work great. Looks like I'll get to use them again tonight and tomorrow.
I bought a pair of the gold ion 885 bulbs from www.autooptiks.com and they work great. Looks like I'll get to use them again tonight and tomorrow.
hehe, i dont drive mine in the rain...unless i get caught in it! I try not too at least. thanks i was also wondering bout a new light for the iroc. another score for the invaluable message boards!
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the slyvania silverstars 9003......is it a whole kit as in house, bulb and all or is it just a light bulb that plugs into the old housing?
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Why does everyone want the blue bulb look these days? I like the brighter lights just as much as the next guy. But I can't stand the blue tint to them. I just want bright plain white bulbs.
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Originally posted by bubbakutz
the slyvania silverstars 9003......is it a whole kit as in house, bulb and all or is it just a light bulb that plugs into the old housing?
the slyvania silverstars 9003......is it a whole kit as in house, bulb and all or is it just a light bulb that plugs into the old housing?
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Originally posted by 87WS6
Why does everyone want the blue bulb look these days? I like the brighter lights just as much as the next guy. But I can't stand the blue tint to them. I just want bright plain white bulbs.
Why does everyone want the blue bulb look these days? I like the brighter lights just as much as the next guy. But I can't stand the blue tint to them. I just want bright plain white bulbs.
Originally posted by 91FIREBIRDGT
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
well i know how all you guys feel, stock headlights are just not bright enough. in my 88 iroc i put the glass lenses in that accept a h4 bulb, that way i can switch bulbs at will, i had no problems with the wiring..BUT i have a 2001 SS Camaro where i used some type of "HID-look alike" (high intensity discharge) and well, it started to melt my headlight connector and they didnt last long so i yanked them. they were i think 65watt instead of stock 55. so now i went for the real thing..I have the TRUE HID's from a 2001 Mercedes Benz S600 purple tinted HID's. they are awesome, bright as hell , people always think i have my high beams on, so the flash me, i just flash them back with my stock highbeams and that shuts them up. i only paid 150 for my entire set-up now which isnt bad, no where near the 500 some companies want for true HIDs. i'll take pics tonight of them installed and on. I am also putting true HIDs in my 86 iroc with the glass lens conversion, this time i may go Audi or BMW though, just to be a lil different than my SS...
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