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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Does anyone know if they make Xenon Headlights for Trans ams? i have an 87 GTA and i think xenon lights will look cool cause all the real expensive cars have them, If anyone knows where i can get them and know how much they are let me know
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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The easiest thing would be to install a pair of Sylvania Silverstar bulbs. Thay have a sort-of HID look, the inner halogen capsules have the light blue filter, and the overall light output is very white.

Else, you can get a Sylvania Xenarc conversion kit, but they cost about $500, and IMO aren't worth it.

You can also get conversion kits where you get a sealed beam shell that accepts the 9000 series replacement capsules. I think you'd want to go with 9004 capsules which are a combined low/high beam. In the aftermarket, you can get high-wattage 9004 capsules for brighter lights, but technically they're illegal on the street.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by 91FIREBIRDGT
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
What he said...
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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do those lights have that purple look to them? also where do you get them i know autozone doesnt have them
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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It all depends on the bulbs you buy. I used to have the PIAA HIDs that were purple and they looked pretty darn close to the real things. I currently just have the blue bulbs that are from APC.

Actually Autozone is where I found the Pilot sealed beam conversions. for a very good price too. $40 for the pair of the Diamond back conversions.

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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Where do i get them?
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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found a pic of some for your year.
Attached Thumbnails Xenon Headlights-headlights.jpg  
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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Those look sweet where can I get them from and how much are they?
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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found those on ebay under http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6777
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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buy the silvania silverstars.....they are only 100K degrees behind a standard xenon HID, and cost about 25 bucks each...the sealed beam ones are a direct replacement for your stock headlights.....i put them in my truck, and they are amazing. its the whitest light you can possibly get without spending a fortune for an HID thats only slightly brighter.

heres a link to another thread i started about the silverstars when i first got them

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=160080

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Do either of you guys know how much amperage those lights draw? Compared to stock? I'd really rather not melt any wires or switches running them after a period of time...
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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I was interested if anyone tried the new silverstars. Thanks!
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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Do either of you guys know how much amperage those lights draw? Compared to stock? I'd really rather not melt any wires or switches running them after a period of time...
my 89 GMC pickup has 160K miles on it and probably the worst electrical system known to man and i have had no problems with them so i would venture a guess that a camaro would be fine
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Got mine from ebay...
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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I run Silverstars in my IROC. They pull about the same current as a stock lamp, so no worries about the harness. And, they are much whiter than a stock halogen. The Silverstar high beams are awesome. When it rains, I flip on the foglamps, in which I put gold-ion dichroic bulbs and I can see the wet road great.

When it's raining or in fog, you want a yellower light. The blue-white lights only work well when it's dry.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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Well...I didn't go with the headlights....but..I replaced my foglights bulbs with a set of the xenon gas filled....and they are soooooo bright and intense...I love'em!
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Wow is all i have to say about the silver stars... i put a set in and will never go with anything else. Unbelievably brighter. Nuf' said.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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Do the silver stars have that diamond cut look? Also are they a lot brighter than the cool blues?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Silverstars do not have the "diamond cut" look. When they're turned off, they look just like a normal halogen lamp. If you look REAL close, you might be able to see that the capsules inside are blue coated. With that said, the light they put out is white, not blue. They're rated at being 4000k color temp, which is white. Trying to filter a halogen to an even higher temperature (like 6500 for example) like some other manufacturers do is a joke, as you're removing too much light. That blue coating if a filter and blue filters remove the longer wavelength light (reds) that would otherwise pass through.

Silverstars are bright. Not as bright as some of the aftermarket "high watt" (like 100 watt) bulbs. Brighter than cool blues.

One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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So do you think it is worth the upgrade from cool blues to silverstars?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tremo

One other consideration regarding the color temperature, is those real bluish (high color temp) bulbs really only work well when it's dry outside. In the rain or in fog, blue light is exactly what you don't want. In the wet, the blue scatters too much off the moisture in the air and reflects back at you as glare. It simply does not penetrate. That's why fog lamps are yellow, the yellower light does not scatter nearly as much and penetrates much better. If you want to go with a higher color temp headlight, make sure you run gold ion foglamp bulbs, you'll need them first time it rains. Guys who put those blue bulbs in their fogs are shooting themselves in the foot.
Exactly, I love my lights with the blueish look except when its raining...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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I upgraded from Xtravisions to Silverstars. The call is yours. It's your car, your cash, your ability to see at night. You decide.

Sylvania's propaganda rates the Silverstars higher than cool blues. I guess the best way would be for you to find a buddy with Silverstars and compare one night.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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the silverstars are MUCH brigher than cool blues, and work better in all weather conditions. I almost never use my highs anymore
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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i had the cool blues in my car before i upgraded.... big difference... seriously!

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 03:06 AM
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i luv my h4 conversions puls this way u can go wit any bulb u want
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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i was thinking about doing that, but i got a good deal on a set of silver stars- so it was cheaper.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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The easiest way to improve your wet weather lighting is to put the gold-ion-dichroic bulbs in the foglamps and USE THEM when it rains.

I bought a pair of the gold ion 885 bulbs from www.autooptiks.com and they work great. Looks like I'll get to use them again tonight and tomorrow.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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hehe, i dont drive mine in the rain...unless i get caught in it! I try not too at least. thanks i was also wondering bout a new light for the iroc. another score for the invaluable message boards!
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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the slyvania silverstars 9003......is it a whole kit as in house, bulb and all or is it just a light bulb that plugs into the old housing?
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Why does everyone want the blue bulb look these days? I like the brighter lights just as much as the next guy. But I can't stand the blue tint to them. I just want bright plain white bulbs.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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the slyvania silverstars 9003......is it a whole kit as in house, bulb and all or is it just a light bulb that plugs into the old housing?
Just the bulb that plugs into your existing housing.
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Why does everyone want the blue bulb look these days? I like the brighter lights just as much as the next guy. But I can't stand the blue tint to them. I just want bright plain white bulbs.
Silverstars are white, not blue. If you want blue, go with PIAA or NOKYA or one of those "Rycer" brands.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by 91FIREBIRDGT
Actually he should go with the H4/9003 bulbs cuz those just plug right into the factory harness. there are plenty of companies that make them for all sealed beam conversions. Matrix, Hella, Pilot(mine), APC, etc. you need the 5x7" conversions. I recommend getting either Matrix or Pilot. They both put out a lot of light.
So I can go by a pair of the H4/9003 bulbs and plug them into my harness. So what do I do for the lamp itself? Can I put the H4 into the factory style light housing or do I need to buy another? Or are the H4/9003 a sealed unit on their own.?
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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What stores carry silverstars in MI? I have never seen them on the shelves.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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Sylvania H4666XV

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not bad for 32 bucks..
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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well i know how all you guys feel, stock headlights are just not bright enough. in my 88 iroc i put the glass lenses in that accept a h4 bulb, that way i can switch bulbs at will, i had no problems with the wiring..BUT i have a 2001 SS Camaro where i used some type of "HID-look alike" (high intensity discharge) and well, it started to melt my headlight connector and they didnt last long so i yanked them. they were i think 65watt instead of stock 55. so now i went for the real thing..I have the TRUE HID's from a 2001 Mercedes Benz S600 purple tinted HID's. they are awesome, bright as hell , people always think i have my high beams on, so the flash me, i just flash them back with my stock highbeams and that shuts them up. i only paid 150 for my entire set-up now which isnt bad, no where near the 500 some companies want for true HIDs. i'll take pics tonight of them installed and on. I am also putting true HIDs in my 86 iroc with the glass lens conversion, this time i may go Audi or BMW though, just to be a lil different than my SS...
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