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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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here's the back x brace I was talking about becoming a possible rule for next season between the rear bars-like how I worked that in
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
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on a lighter note
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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woah woah.. that's the same car?...



Least he got away ok... too bad the car didn't.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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no thats not the same car the wrecked one looks like a pinto.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Went back into the shop and they say now there going to shoe horn both 18's in the hatch... then I said if that's not enough I buy 2 more for the back seat area... the installer roll'd his eyes then Yell'd "I'm not ****ing building it!".

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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
Originally posted by Pew
no thats not the same car the wrecked one looks like a pinto.
The wreck car "used to" be a Monza. The part that really stinks is the guy that was driving sold that car 3 months agao, and the buyer let him finish out the season in it-guess he did'nt sell the car after all Then just 3 months earlier to this, the same guy driving had to be air lifted to the hospital from the track becasue he suffered an anurism and needed emergency surgery. So all in all I think once he gets this mess cleared up, he's better off staying away from the track, kinda got a bad omen or something.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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actually, that is a late 70's chevrolet monza. it has a bbc in it too! don't you EVER confuse a pinto and a monza!

(sorry, those are one of my fav. cars, i get a little emotional looking at one messed up. my dad bought a 1979 brand new in 1978. he just sold it two months ago. it had a 14pt cage and ran mid 10's n/a.)
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
Originally posted by fireturd350
Went back into the shop and they say now there going to shoe horn both 18's in the hatch... then I said if that's not enough I buy 2 more for the back seat area... the installer roll'd his eyes then Yell'd "I'm not ****ing building it!".

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Holy smokes, how many batteries/amps you gonna use to push all that?!! Your gonna have to beef up the suspension to keep the subs from pounding the car into the pavement
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Holy smokes, how many batteries/amps you gonna use to push all that?!! Your gonna have to beef up the suspension to keep the subs from pounding the car into the pavement

rofl, ya, i know...that's alot, but... if you want the sound, there ya go..

i've been looking at some 12's and the amp cost is insane... so i know 4 18's, unless if they are like.. 150 watts each, is going to be an unbelievable bill to pay.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Transmission: ProBuilt S/S 700-R4 & ACT 9" Stall
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Right now only have 2 18" comp vr's I was kind of kidding about 4 of them

Power:

Amps: 2 JBL 1200.1s (running at 2 ohms makes 1200 advertized power [more like 1300+])

Batteries: 1 yellow top optima dual post in the glove box for the amps and a regular battery for the motor (isolator stuck between the two)

Caps: 2 audio lightning 1 farad with digital tops

Wiring: 1/0 from batteries to isolator then 4 for the amps

Subs:

2 2003 Kicker Comp VR 18" 1000 RMS 2000 Peak (gonna stick one amp on each running at 2 ohms)


Box:

Seal'd particle board (only thing they wanted to make it out of) If I decide I don't like it I'll steal measurements and make one out of MDF.


The amps aren't too expensive around 265 bucks each. The subs were cheap 100 bucks each

So I can be pounding and when someone asks me I'll just say, "I have two one hundred dollar subs."


I figured this would make the car faster... after stall went from 5.0 0-60 mph to a 6.8 0-60 mph (g-tech'd) and 1/4 mile 14.0 @ 103 to 15.3@ 100. More weight more traction... not to mention this is my everyday summer driver

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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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chris those 18s are gonna blow a particle board box to pieces. lol.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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not too shabby, i was thinking of going w/ kickers... but then i looked at their sound range, not as good as some of the competitions. :-/ but loud, i know kickers are, very loud. only speakers that have ever rattled my chest and made it hurt, but it hurt soooo sooo good. :-).
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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Yeah, that's the nice thing if I pop the box they will have to replace it. If I like it I probably just build my own out of MDF since I have table saw and about everything else I need. It's a lot easier for me to pay to have one made, use it for awhile, then copy the design later if I want. :-)

W7s made my chest hurt.

News update: Picked up 100 hp tonight on the motor... I ran 10 feet worth of blue wire conduct (only decent color they had with flame retardent didn't even have black) to the gauges and switchs coming through the firewall that I drilled out.


Actually starting to run out of room to mount **** (MSD and hurst line lock taking up most of the room)... I'm gonna have to mount the battery solenoid near driverside tire area and run bolts from the inside out... fun fun
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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hehe fireturd i love your avitar
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Thanks, I stole it from someone on the LS1 board I think.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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back to roll cage stuff... is it possible to put some bars around your engine bay?

I"m eventually wanting to put a nice big engine in my car... when i go into the core that is... And i'm wanting to build it, and make sure it doesn't die if i get int a wreck...

So, is there a way to put a box around the engine bay? i know nascar does it & all, but has anyone done it on a 3rd gen yet? like... connect the whole car together w/ the cage, cept for the back, who cares there, lol.

What's valuable is life and engines. lol. Then again.. gas tanks are prety important too.. hmm.. ANYWAYS, can you do that?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
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As with life, if you have the will, resources, and the funds ALL things are possible!!
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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see the thing with the nascar comparison is (and im going to sound pretty ignorant here because well i am on this topic) dont nascar cars have a complete tube chassis? So not only is there tubing around the engine but the entire chassis of the car is just made of tubes so youd basically be looking at buying a custom frame? So its a little different then putting it onto one of our cars. Also realize two things one if you have a high speed front end crash and the nose of the car is too solid instead of the car absorbing 80% of the crash and you 20 youd probably be taking 90% of the crash....could very well end up killing you....not to mention if you tied bars around the engine into the frame even a small collision would probably destroy the frame of the car.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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So you're talking pretty much like a 14 point or so. Right?
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