hey guys. Ive got chrome or rather red wheel spinners. I used to have 4 but now Ive only got 3. Someone either ganked it or it fell off over a hard bump. My question is which would be the best glue/adhesive to stick it on there? And If I do use adhesive to stick it on will the any of the tri points interfere with the lug nuts? If so is there anything I can do. Ill look into whether theyll fit with the lugs later. But help would be appreciated.

 

Spinners belong on civics and supras. Shammmmmmme for ever letting them get near a third gen.

 

Are you just talking about the center cap spinners? Or one of those hubcaps that are chrome plastic with spinners?

 

 

LOL

Look at the car in his sig, see the back wheel??? It has a red thing in the middle, and there isn't one in the front.......I'm assuming that's what he is talking about, not spinning hubcaps, he has gold GTA wheels......

 

lmao

 

the ones in his sig lok like they are three point knock off caps, something that should never get clost to a thirdgen

 

do you have a closer look at the picture?

 

ya ive got more pix at.

http:www.angelfire.com/ri2/83transam/

I think thats the link. Click on pix.

I think my 3 pointers look nice. I dunno why no1 else has em. I guess A.R.E liked the idea? My front wheel has a centercap that says ARE so Im guessing thats who made em.

Nate

 

 

hey my chrome centers cant compare to some of the body kits ive seen, rims, etc. Personally I think ALOT of the aftermarket rims from this site even look disgusting. I like the stock Iroc rims, GTA rims, and maybe a few more. Its all a matter of opinion. Id have lost my mind if my car came with stock rims. I dont think they look too appeasing.

Nate

 

well i really dont think ur rims looks to "appeasing" ghetto shabbo, or whatever its called, but hey u like it, thats all that matters huh???

 

those are called knock offs not spinners right. Even though they aren't real knockoffs. Try some RTV silicone sould provide enough holding strength and still allow you to remove them if need be

 

what you mean by real knock offs. Differnece between real and fake??? LOL:lala: Still havent got my ? answered. I guess weve really gone off topic.

Nate

 

Knock-offs= race cars back in the day used a single spin on retainer for the wheels instead of lug nuts. They would whack one of the 3 pointy things, and it would spin off allowing the wheel to come off. Hence "knock-off".
and some rtv would be fine, no worse than the knock offs themselves.

 

oh I see. thats nifty.

 

well, i don't know about nifty....
I'll leave the knock offs on the old Ford GT-40s and stuff they were actually intended for....

 

It would be amusing watching one of those nuts come loose while running on the track.

Leave it to ford I suppose..

 

hehe I can see why it would be cool for easy wheel takeoff. Not so usefull for any conventional racin/drivin

 

Actually, in those lemans races, they all had similar style wheels with knock offs, Porche, Ferrarri, etc...never seen one fall off, i've watched a few old-school races.

 

you should find whoever took the first one and give them the other 3.

 

 

If you're gonna go that ghetto, why have any at all?

 

and whats the deal on your "for sale" page saying you have aftermarket wheels?

Those are just some stock crosslace wheels... of course not stock on your car but stock on other 'birds.

 

well Im pretty sure they are A.R.E or something. Not just taken from another firebird. Ive got the original caps and they say A.R.E on them. Im guessing this is a company. Im also guessing this company included the 3 pointed knockoffs? Am I the only one who think knockoffs look good. I see em on chevelles, and all kinds of cars all the time. Oh well. w/e

Nate

 

1 thoes are stock wheels..


2, my spitfire had wire wheels, complete with 2 wheel knock offs for a lil while..... the diff is, they were REAL, actually held the wheel on, (were not glued)... and they were actualy ment for racing. (vintage racing.

ive sence swapped to some nice 4 lug mag wheels though.


seeing the cast wheel.... then the mounting lugs, then some glued on aftermarket plastic knock off, its just.... ugh...

they're ment to hold WIRE rims on.... you know, with spokes.... theres no place for lug nuts on wire wheels, so they use the big spinner nut.


today, only two types of cars have them..... the ghetto gangsta wire wheel groups, and vintage cars that came stock with em.

 

I'm curious as to what year they were stock since they are not oem wheels (unless GM had a wheel shortage and used a.r.e. to supply extra wheels to them) ?

 

who knows. Maybe my centercaps that said A>R>E on them were the aftermarket pieces only. Perhaps the previous owner had got some GTA wheels, put new plastic caps on em. Got the chrome knockoffs, put 2 of em on only and left 2 of the A>R>E plastic caps? Either way the cap says A.R.E. whether the rim is A.R.E or just the plastic center cap is ARE is unknown. The metal knockoffs say FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY LOL right....that makes sense how???Ima go offroading. Id better take my trusty fake knockoffs.

Nate

 

Those are a.r.e. wheels, not GTA wheels. The wheels are somewhat rare I guess you could say since you don't see them very often.
There was a blue/silver T/A for sale in KY that had a black set of wheels exactly like yours with the a.r.e. centercaps.

Here's one of my stock GTA wheel for reference (notice they are pretty different around the lug/centercap area).....

 

Yes, those wheels are definitely not stock. The stock ones look much better IMO.

 

hehe. see guys some people here back me up and dont make me look like a total looser.

thx guys!

Nate

 

wow you guys are being tough on this kid. if you like your spinners (i know what K/Os are, but guess what, before spinning wheels came out, a lot of people and manufacturers called these spinners), keep em. If i were you, I would paint them. the red doesn't match at all. ...maybe silver, gold, or black?? try using the RTV , just make sure the contact surfaces are clean.

and to set it straight, knock-offs are not only for wire wheels, fords, or even vintage cars. Sure, my roomate had a set of K/O wires on his old MG-B, but my fav KOs were the hallibrand style that were on the 60s gt40s, shelby cobras, and the (gasp) Chevy corvette grand sport. like stated above lots of cars used em. for a modern example, i think the ferarri Enzo uses a similar system. p.s. they are not all three bar, some old vettes, for example, had two bars.

peace

 

I just don't think they look right on this wheel design; personally I would use some kind of standard wheel cap.

But to the topic at hand, can't get a much stronger standard adhesive than epoxy...

 

I am planing on driling 2 small holes in the wheel (and tap it) and through 2 of the tabs of my center caps on my factory gta wheels. Then using a tamper prof set screw this should keep them from falling off and slow down/ prevent them from getting stolen. But Im sure sooner or later someone will break it trying to get it off.

I took off my chrome ones and put the black ones back on till I do it though.

And remember he didn't ask if we like them just how to keep them on. And most old school people call them spinners, the new school spiners are well there not thirdgen. His caps go on the same way the factory ones do so this is something that needs to be done unless the car is show only. Do not use epoxy, it needs to come off everytime you get tires or balance the wheels.

 

very true... lots of vintage race cars had them.... GT40s (they were mag wheels too), vette... most any race cars of the day that had to change tires fast had them.

they have long since been replaced (starting in the 70s) with nuts... huge nuts in the center of the wheel.... like the enzo mentioned.... or like the camaro and firebird wheels are suppost to look like. esp my 91 camaro 16" rims.. same style center caps are on the new malibu too..


btw, my spitfire only had 2 ears also.
i also had a leather wrapped wooden mallet to install and remove the wheel without damaging the spinner.

edit:
i usually used a wooden formed wrench and a shot filled hammer instead... alot easier.

 

Take the advice of the knockoff itself and don't drive on the road with those things. Why would you want red knockoffs on a black and gold car??? And why would you want to glue them on when you don't have a complete set of 4???

In your sig pic, I always wondered what was going on with your rear wheel. The front wheel looks much better. Just my $.02

 

Kudos to that. I am glad someone else it thinking the same way that I am. I'm a big advocate of the whole "Do whatever you want, it's your car" theory... but only as long as it doesn't make it look too ghetto.

My opinion you ask? Do yourself a favor, and pull them off.

 

No, he didn't ask.... for anyones.

 

The a.r.e wheels are stock, if you have a ultra rare thrirdgen. I'm not sure of the exact packages. But the a.r.e. wheels was dealer installed (shipped from a.r.e) OR the cars was from the dealers to some company to do "van" like conversions. I have seen(in person) a couple of extremely rare 82-83 t/a's that had a.r.e wheels . You might want to check the history of that t/a.


You guys forgot that gangsters AND james bond(i think) used spinners to puncture tires

 

u got recaro seats in that bird???

 

It was a joke bro... you know, sarcasm?
People take things way too seriously around here.

Take a pill.

 

Na Those are the ones with the hole in the head rest right? Na I dont.
If theres any way I can tell by my vin if its anything special lemme know. I dont think its a recaro t/a though. Once I clean out my car and its warmer Ill take more pix but for now.

http://www.angelfire.com/ri2/83transam/

is all I got for pix.

I didnt think there was much rare t/a's except for notchback gtas, turbo t/a's and recaros. Ive got an 83 so that knocks out quiet a bit of catergorys. Ive never seen a t/a like mine with the ARE wheels. I bet one of the previous owners had ordered em or something. I have no way of telling any mods from my car. Id like to have the car dyno'd for hp but I dunno where I could go. My car feels pretty strong but Im pretty sure its just got the lg4 in it. I might be getting a 650 holley carb soon.

Would a 650 holley cut my already 12mpg down?? Or could it improve it. My quad deff. has some problems with it. The choke valve on it doesnt open itself so I had to adjust it to be open all the time. Even cold.

Nate

 

since you asked! I say that it wouldn't hurt(if yoriginal is in need of repairs). If you want to get 20+mpg then you have two options.

1. use the 650carb and a mech dist. This is a distributor in most any 70's GM v8. You can get a good one from a salvage yard (with the coil) for around $15. It drops right in. Lay the factory harness to the side(don't cut it up!).

2. Repair the original carb that's on da car. Autozone has a rebuild kit for like $20. It's not that hard to do. Or have a shop do it. Then you'll retain ecm control. You will also need a new o2 sensor,out of hand.

Is this better than oprion 1, I don't know. My OPINION is the cc carb was a quick design to comply with emissions. It is not that great for engine management. I like the old school way.

 

There is a few thirdgens that has dealer installed conversions,etc. I'll take a pic of the bird that's sits at DQ. It doesn't have a.r.e. wheels but is one of these rare cars. It was modifed at the dealer after it came from gm(before it was sold).It's not a one off, I think there was a batch of em made at once. This is one example.

Your's might not be rare. Those rims could have been put on a few years back.....

 

thats what im thinkin.