No pics today Bretheren, the topic of interest is shooting flames from your exhaust. The trick is as old as hotrodding itself. The question is, in this day and age of the Ryce and furious, does it still maintain its coolness" on muscle cars?

 

Personal opinion, no. Yeah, its a cool feature but having 12" tailpipes out the back past the bumper kinda looks goofy.

 

My Friends RX7 does that, as well as a prelude driving around town somewhere....

 

I don't see why some of you continue to say thing like ri*er and what not. Just because someone chooses to modify a different kind of vehicle does not make them any less of a person than any of you. I find it disgusting really. I have a third-gen that I love, and I have a Toyota mini-van that I love. And I must say, my mini-van can smoke most third-gens, unless they have been heavily modified. And it is only a V6. Does that mean my van and I are ri*er? No. It means I love automobiles, so what does it matter what kind of automobile? And to your question, it would depend on how you use your car. If it was a daily driver, then I would think it would be weird to have flamethrowers, regardless of the car. Now, if it was a show car, or you only drove it every now and again, then it might be tasteful. And it depends on the appearance of the vehicle... if it was a rust-bucket, then almost anything would look kind of weird on it.

Just my opinions of course.

 

Right now i am running straight headers + true dual
no cat or mufflers and i shoot some nice flames, i think its cool, but the back fire is so damn loud. I always scare animals when it does it I am gonna put mufflers on though. Then the flames will stop. But i think if its done right, its bad ***. I am gonna put side pipes that come out infront of the rear weels and i might make it flame.

 

I don't hate on rycers for modifying their vehicles. Hell as far as im concerned he's an enthusiast. I do hate on rycers for abusing all road privellages and making it damn near illegal to own a cool car.

 

Owning an import does not make you a r1cer. Putting a 6" exhaust tip, a 3' wing and covering your import (or domestic for that matter) with stickers makes you one.

I'm sure everyone is very impressed with your fire-breathing minivan & when you're out racing the other soccer moms, don't let them give you any crap about owning a thirdgen.

 

LOL, um, sure !!

You knew this was coming.........

Your mini-van doesn't want any of this:

Even when the car was bone stock, there wasn't a mini-van arround that was or is faster.

 

Wahahahahahahahahha
*Catches breath*.......
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a thirdgen eating minivan
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WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

No but seriously, to me rycers are these idiots around town here who think putting a 12' wing, some nitrous stickers, a car club banner and having neon lights makes them go super fast. Those are rycers and they are very very annoying when they try to pull up to you powering up thier fart can.

 

dont laugh but so hard in Darlington, SC there was a minivan that would run constant 11.5's

 

My dads got a Dodge caravan with a Dodge 3.3L v6. Thing runs like a raped ape. Well....it beat my buddy's civic hands down. It really surprised me...hell, the civic had 40hp stickers on it!!! I still don't get it?

 

Just a quick question about r1ce. Do you people on here consider my Beretta GTZ ****? Its a 1993 Beretta GTZ, medium quasar blue, 17" Cobra-R replicas, no appearance mods, just stock ground effects.

Its got Eibachs, KYB shocks/struts, the blue headlights (to match the blue on the car). Interior is stock and exterior is basically stock.

I did go with a highflow muffer/tip combo sometimes common to ricers, only because I couldn't find the tips I wanted on any other type of muffler.

Now, as for the engine... yes, its a 4 cylinder. A Quad4 HO DOHC. Yes, some of you say Quad4's are crap and for the good part, they are. They got a justified bad wrap for head gasket failure and they're not the easiest things to work on. But if they are cared for, fluids are changed regularly and its warmed up before any serious high rpm fun, you're ok.

I had my motor built by Bilmar of Dayonta, FL. They are the ones that built all of the racing Quad4's that competed in the early 90's IMSA Firehawk series. My motor is a fully balanced and blueprinted Quad4 with goodies galore. Its about 230hp to the flywheel with other mods, including header, and 2.5" exhuast. Theres much more.

Question is, do you consider it r1ce? No flashy body kits, no exterior false badging, no interior r1ce crap, no weak, stock engine.

Here's a pic:

[edit] pic is shown without Eibachs yet [edit]

***MOD EDIT*** Please do not post non-third gen pics. Thanks!

 

I don't think so...Seems done with good taste. Unlike most ricers.

 

I smell... haterism. But anywho, I never said my van was stock, but anywho. You all further proved my point that you are what is wrong with the auto-community. Most guys I know that drive ri*ers like any car that has been modified, regardless of age, type, or engine size. And I have much more respect for someone who can make a 4 cylinder run 3 seconds faster, than a person who only makes an 8 cylinder go 1 second faster. But go ahead and keep being prejudiced. It just makes you all look like the stereotypical *******.
Oh, and there is a car almost exactly like that blue one here in my town. Just in looks. I don't think he has the same supsenion set up, though. And flames coming out of side pipes? Doesn't sound to safe to me... how far is the tip going to be away from the body? It would suck if it melted the ground effects.

 

I don't think you could classify 1bad91Z's car as "*******". That screams science, technology and raw power to me.

******* is more along the lines of a ratty carb, engine block thats 5+ colors, etc.

 

here here

 

no offense...

 

I will start by saying there are many import 4 cylinders that I know of around here that are very fast. They don't have neon lights everywhere, and body kits all over the place. They are not ****. However, if someone has a 140 hp 4 cylinder, puts an exhaust (and flames or whatever) and a bunch of neon lights on it and thinks it's some kind of hotrod that is r1ce. And I could give two ****s if someone can make a 4 cylinder 3 seconds faster if it's still only running 13s or 14s. It's whoever has the faster car that really matters.

 

I agree there are a lot of 4 cyl. cars that are fast. Lets face it, modern technology is rapidly and constantly improving. However, people need to consider the fact that these imports are also much lighter than my thirdgen. What does that prove? Nothing! I dont even give them the time of day. Not even a quick glance. When I see them pulling up next to me at a light I ignore them. They are a waste of my time. I have 500 horses of pure thunder. They can feel it when they pull up next to me. Nothing replaces that feeling. No stinking phat exhaust tip will give them that. To me its a big joke and a waste of money but thats what this generation likes. Its not for me however. And one more thing...NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING WILL EVER TAKE THE PLACE OF THE AMERICAN MUSCLE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! Horsepower and cubic inch displacement. A marriage made in heaven. Just my 2 cents...

 

An interesting thought comes to mind.

In this age of fuel effeciency and turbos becoming even more popular, I think someday something will replaced the American Muscle car. I mean, look at the plethora(sp?) of Muscle cars ever made and look at how many are made/attainable now. The Corvette, Mustang, and Viper. I for one envy the Corvette and Viper owners but I don't have $50k plus right now.

I was watching this show on Discovery yesterday and it was the Great Biker Buildoff. It was between Inidan Larry (old school) and PAul Yaffe (new school) and they were to build custom choppers in 30 days and then a crowd decided who's was best.

Being 22 myself, the new style bike looked 1 billion times better. Indian Larry's bike looked like every other wire-wheel old school chopper seen millions of times before and Paul's truly looked CUSTOM. In the end, Indian Larry's bike won and I was absolutely flabbergasted that such an old, worn out style could win an event like that. Then it dawned on me. Most of the people voting looked to be say 40+. I wonder if they'd done some kind of vote at say Sema or any of the other shows that have to do with modern technology and style. Then lets see who wins.

I guess where I'm going with this is.... There's a place for both imports and RWD domestics. Always will be, personal preference. I think the r1ce community is still so young that it just doesn't have the money or the knowhow yet to make their cars what THEY envision them to be.

My .02

 

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I am the R1ce generation, age 19. I think that kids want loud stereos, and a flashy ride. Most kids wanna have the spinners, the led washers, and the fart can exhaust just because its kinda the new trend. Look back into the 60's when everyone wore flower shirts. Ask me they all look stupid, same as huge body kits and fins on the back of these 50hp cars. I guess its the new trend. Everyone wants to fit in I suppose. Personally my Camaro needs a paint job real bad, and I've got the stock rims on there. But I couldn't really care what people think, I love my car, and if Everyone was driving a thirdgen, then I suppose we would be the aunt jemima people, Kids would yell hey auntie, instead of stupid r1ce.

Anyway I'm glad my car is pretty much the opposite of what the new trend is, If the new gen dont like it then can tell it to my tailights

$0.02

 

You are very closed-minded. What you are not understanding is that 4 cylinders does not = r1ce. I appreciate fast imports-- as long as they don't have double-decker wings on them, body kits that look like they were designed by Boeing, and LED windshield washers (what the hell are those about anyway?)

That said, a 4 cylinder which originally ran 17's and is made to run 14's is still not fast. However, if you take a 13 sec. LS1 and make it 1 second faster... See my point?

I smell haterism too. From your "stereotypical *******" comment. I'm not prejudiced against imports. I drive one everyday (it's an SUV, wanna race that minivan?) But I think it's stupid to buy a $15,000 economy car and spend $20,000 to make it go 11's when you can buy a $15,000 V8 performance car and go 11's with $3K in mods.

 

Well, this thread started off on the wrong board, and turned into a topic not dealing with third gens, specifically. I will take the liberty to close this thread before it gets any further off of the Body and Interior topic.

Here it goes.........................................

 

Thought this got locked??? Guess not eh? To each his own on their cars. The imports dont bother me at all. Both my boys have import friends and they all wish they had my car. However they also like their imports. They just want to fit in I guess. I'll take thunder over lawn mowers any day...

 

88txiroc will be back to lock this soon I'm sure, but I wanted to point something out.

One day a long time ago, there was only 1 car owner who actually wished he had someone to compete against. Then, along came some other guy with another sweet ride. That day that "haterism" began. It's been here forever.....and It's healthy. However, I think "hate" is mis-used. I don't hate people who drive imports. For that matter, I don't hate people who drive Fords. ...and that goes for "MOST" of us. There's no need for hate, but there is room for rivalry....sometimes those rivalries get a little heated, but that's with EVERY sport, not just autosports. Heck, a club meetings, sometimes us Iroc guys will rip on the other thirdgen Camaros!!!

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So, I wanna know about this sic Mini-van. What have you done? You can't come in here and speak of thirdgen spanking potential, and not give us the skinny!!!

...that ain't cool yo.

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...I'm sorry omni, tech site...right?

I think flamethrowers are out. I think they are for good ol' hot rods. I love our cars, but they're not really "hot rods". It's gotta be a total custom job. Then it'd be cool.

 

I agree that if someone takes an ordinary looking car, and mods it up with lots of engine stuff and puts hours into his/her work, should feel some pride. I just dont enjoy seeing these HUGE fins on the backs of cars, and when i see a car that has cardboard body kits and mismatched rims driving around, just kinda takes away from the car. I would much rather have a sweet fast engine, and a couple dents, and old paint on my car than a new paint job, and a slow 2.8. Thats for damn sure. But I just can't see anyone liking those body kits, seems strange that kinda look is accepted in life, Seems weird no one looks at those cars and just stops all day to day life, just to watch this thing drive by.

 

Yes. as long as you have a car that is suited for it