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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Headliner question

I am gonna redo my headliner and teh tech article said in the damaged areas to use fiberglass cloth and spry the adhesive on it but mentioned nothing about using fiberglass resin. Will the adhesive harden the fiberglass? Has anyone coated the entire headliner in fiberglass? Thanks for the help in advance.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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I have done my entire headliner in fiberglass. I used the fiberglass resin and hardener. I didnt follow the instructions as closely as i should have. For one thing i didnt realize to MIX MIX MIX. I mixed for like 3 seconds and it didnt come out that good. I just did the top part of the headliner. The sanding on mine was a biatch. Since i didnt mix good, there were bubbles and sharp areas that needed the good ole dremel to get them to where they should be. That took by far the longest part. I went to the fabric store bought some felt like material and some 1/4 in. foam glued the foam to the fibergalss and then i stapled the fabric into the cardboard and fiberglass. That hurt, the first staple was in a thin spot with a staple that was too long and went right into my finger. After it was all said and done I love how mine looks and it is the first thing that people complemnet on my car, for now any quesiton I can try and help with, I am no fiberglass expert but I can lead you away from my mistakes.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Ok so I've never done fiberglass before. I bought the fabric and the resin. What is this hardener? Do I need it? Probably a stupid question. Thanks for any help.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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check to see if the resin came with a small tube mine did that was the hardener. Yes you definatly need the hardener, Mix it good. Good Luck.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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no it didn't come with any thing else.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Without hardener, it's never going to dry, it'l just stay in it's current state.

What brand of resin do you have?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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The kind in the metal can with the white plastic top? Hmm, it should indeed have come with a tube of hardener, as I think I've bought that exact same stuff before for other purposes.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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yeah that's the kind but not extra tube with it. I'll run back to Autozone and pick some up I need more fiberglass cloth anyways.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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im doing this right now, its coming out ok, just make sure to get rid of any sections of your headliner that the yellow stuff is like seperating into layers on yours first, it will save you alot of head aches and just take your time. the sanding is the hard part, but makes it worth it in the long run.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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thanks for the tip. I just sprayed the cloth on last night and i will start spreading the resin tonight?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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sprayed the cloth on ?

what you do it, do a coat of resin, let it dry then put another layer on with the fiberglass cloth or mat and put resin over that, and let it dry, and you can then put one more layer of resin on, and then sand it smoth
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I only did one layer and it came out fine, its been almost 6 months ago and it has help up so far.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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I sprayed glue on the backer first to hold the cloth in place. That helped eliminate any wrinkles in the cloth when applying the resin.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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On my 89, I went over the whole thing with resin, sanded it down, and painted it the same color as my car... It looked really good, everyone complimented me on it
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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i have no experience with fiberglass. and was wanting to do this to my headliner as well. but along the lines of having it painted rather than clothed. how big of a pain in the *** is it, minus the sanding. and does any one have any pictures of their finished product? i would like to see how it turned out. if any one has a step by step of what to do for a beginner, the glass part. not the removal of the headliner, would be great.

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