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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Re: The Black Widow

wow.... All that work is amazing. Wish my dad would help me with my car (he's just worried he'll hurt himself, spend too much money, or try and steal the car from me).

After reading through all this makes me want to go and work on my car hardcore.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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No progress to add, just thought you all would find it funny, The pre owner did a sad attempt of shaving the emblems on my ground effects....turns out if was just full of bondo, I knocked to out with a screw driver. O the things you find
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Re: The Black Widow

I must say im impressed...

Looks like its come a LONG way so far. Keep it up and have fun with it.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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ZOMG pictures! O__O....so close but yet so far....only 2 weeks left! im going nuts >_<

anyways...be amazed!







Apillers:





All my plastic junk ready for primer:



door's:




Hood, btw no thats not all bondo, just bondo dust



decklid:

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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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And just because I want too, this is the gap difference on the two sides of the hatch....which..os STILL not started...stuiped lazy teacher *grumble grumble*

good side:



bad side:



id like to thank my friend..for if she didnt get a camera for her bithday....id have no one to "borrow" >_> a camera from.

also, This is the guy whom has been re-welding all the pannels on the car, for the sake of saftey:




kinda funny looking no?

anyways till next time
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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And one last thing to add:
work left:

Finish body work on doors, paint and prep doors
prep and decklid
body work on one fender, prep and paint both fenders
fix hatch gap
body work, paint and prep on the passanger side fender seam
touch up the driver fender seam, and the A-pillers
paint and prep the above fenders
prep and paint plastics
bodywork, paint hood

.....thats all I can think of right now...

-carter



only....2...weeks...left....*twitch*
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Re: The Black Widow

coming along good. Seems like you might have a few all nighters to get that car ready in two weeks. Paint and prep takes some time to do.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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lookin good man. I remember when you started this project, good to hear you're gonna be able to finish it so quickly. can't wait to see it all finished up. my 84 project is gonna last me a couple years.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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is A few years? wow, I really didnt even expect this project to take this long...lmao it was suppose to be a few paint touch ups...and it turned into this lmao...oh well im having fun, thats what counts

may 29
ok update....*phew* passanger side quarter almost done, doors nearing compleation, plastic going in for primer in a day or two, driver side quarter compleate...fenders yet to be started...decklit almost done....I might just get this done ^^

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got all the sand blasting done today...and the dam thing wont start see: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/425553-87-tpi-wont-start.html?posted=1#post3357592

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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Re: The Black Widow

UPDATE

passanger quarter compleated, drivers quarter compleated, doors/decklid/hood all really close...fenders yet to be prepped.
will get pics soon


got into a hudge fight with my teacher, yet more delays on the car >_<

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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Re: The Black Widow

woopie, update

in primer: decklit, both fenders, body kit, body of car.

yet to be primed:
both bumpers and doors

trying to decide a paint colour, im thinking a black or cherry black, opinions?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Re: The Black Widow

I think a cherry black would be really nice. and a lot more original than just black.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Ok, ive decided on a color....but I forgot the exact name for it lmao. its a black pearl, that has a red look to it in direct sunlight

Car should be ready by the end of next week! woot...now...if only I could get it started.

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Hey man, big props to you. I know how it is. I'm 17 with two jobs, school, and my 84 Camaro. Thats awesome that you do most of that work with your dad. This thread is definitly a pick me up, when my car is irritating me. So keep us posted. Hope this thing gets done.

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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OK!! lmao, cars home, finally, theres a few pits, and a small run on the mirror, but honestly, im not going to bother with my shop teacher, my mom, and my dad and I are just plane sick of his bs, but, all in all for my first, DD car, I say its pretty dam nice lmao, and for the ammount of work we did too it, it only ended up costing 2000.00 even. But anyways, so far, its got the carpets back in it, a few trim pices, and one rear seat lol, oh and we finally got it running (turns out the kids at my school unplugged a few things, but I fixed that, and it ran peachy, as it did when I bought it, but we get it home, and I unplug the neutral saftey switch, and a few other plugs that are on the transmission tunnel, and put the carpet in, and plug them back in, now it wont start >_< also a black box thing that was plugged into the diagnostic plug fell off, and we plugged it back in...and still nothing, starter wont even start up. oh well, I'l get it running eventually. I'll get some pics up soon.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Re: The Black Widow

Awesome Work,
I remeber my 1st big car rebuild...I was 17 and it was a 75 Camaro...put a 455 Olds engine in it. Your doing a much better job.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Re: The Black Widow

Originally Posted by CarterCarbureto
(turns out the kids at my school unplugged a few things, .

And that's why I will never bring my car to my school and have kids work on it. I might have to hang someone off the lift.


Anyways, We need some updated pics man. I really wanna see how this car came out.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Pic time!!



















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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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And heres that trouble zone, >_< this was fun to fix







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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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Not one reply? I thought it looks pretty good lol
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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Damn bro, you're making me feel lazy with the amount you got done in one year.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Lookin good man!
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Update:
Headlights and taillights on
bumper on
rear trim inside
mirror fixed
door handles and locks on
passanger weather stripping on
seat belts in
headliner in
OHC in
dashpad in
oh btw, I got all the rear cargo area all set up....and then relized I didnt drill the holes for the side parts of the spoiler >_< lmao











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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Congrats..car is looking really nice and glad to see it is coming together. Nice work.
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Congrats........nice to see all the hard work you put into the car is finally paying. The car is really coming together. Great work.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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That color looks good in the dark man. A lot darker than in the other pics.

BTW, what's up with those taillights? Was the car rearended or something?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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This was discussed ealier, I one have one grid tail light, and no finds to buy the second, and these are the only tail lights I have at the time, so thats what im going to use till I have the other grid light.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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looks sweet mane!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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This was discussed ealier, I one have one grid tail light, and no finds to buy the second, and these are the only tail lights I have at the time, so thats what im going to use till I have the other grid light.
lol... makes sense.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:47 AM
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Heh, sorry about my last post I didnt mean it too sound mean lol
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Very nice that thing has came a far way. Now just clean up under the hood some .
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Be very very carefull when drilling the holes for the wing end pieces. We messed my brothers up the first time we drilled them. Luckily it was still in primer so we were able to weld the hole back up.

Basically there is no good way to mark the holes for the wing tips since you have that third stud that is perpindicular to the other two. Your best bet is to measure a car that has the factory holes and mimic it.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Lucky us, we left the edge of the old quarter panel, so the holes are still there ^^, just make a little mark with a center punch, and vollia...well..atleast thats how I hope it will go lmao.

Anyways, almost everthing is back on, besides the spoiler pices, driver door panel, and the AC comp. Should be done within the week, then I get to clean up under that dirty engine bay.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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This is the first time I have seen this thread and I just wanted to say you have come along way bringing her back to life....nice job so far I can wait to see it once it is finished. PS: What color is that?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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Well done, nothing is perfect. Having the satisfaction that you did it yourself is an achievement many have yet to do. Have fun and be good to your camaro!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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Thanks ^^, and about the paint, i'll take a look at the can tomorrow, and post up what it is. I'll also try to get some pics up. Also, how long do I have too wait, before I can safely use a presure washer, and wax the car?
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Man, I really want to see some pictures of it all put back together.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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here have some more pics



















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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Flawless paint job man, very nice.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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you should be really proud of yourself that car it looks awesome.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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, Looking good!
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Its all pretty much together, few little things dont work though.
-power door locks in passenger door (linkage missing)
-hatch release (no power getting to the popper)
-wrong tail lights (correct ones ordered)
-nose emblem
-passenger power mirror (ordered)
-front 4x6 speakers (head unit too powerful)
-no windshield (gunna get next paycheck)
-seatbelt headliner cover
-air cond.
-lights in firebird climate controls (assuming the bulbs are dead)


I think thats everything...but hey, the car looks awsome, so those things can wait.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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You drive it yet? If so, How does it feel, must feel great!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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Cant really driver it anywhere right now, due to the lack of windshield lol
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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So how much have you put in total if you don't mind me asking. Also, who painted it?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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psh....who needs a windshield to tool around a lot or down the road? Hell, I fire up engines before i have the exhaust on!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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Very nice work man!!! Kudos to you.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
Re: The Black Widow

again looks friggin sweet, average person would probably have paid 5x what you did to have something as nice. plus you did alot of it yourself.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28 camaro
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Re: The Black Widow

soo, getting paided today, hoping to get the windsheild, and the tailights, possibly some new 4x6's. thanks for all your support ^^
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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Re: The Black Widow

copied from the electronics section

"Ok, so I finally got the widow back together, and it has a short, ive checked my stereo, pulled all the fuses, and check the alternator, and it still has a short, im praying its not a wire under the dash..because I just got that all back in

Anyways, if there are any other spots I should check, please tell me. Im really getting sick of the battery constantly draining."
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