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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

it hangs lower then the ground effects by half a inch i was thinking of just cutting the bumper to line it up then smooth it out think that would work and still look stock or ????
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Cant find 91 front ground effects?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Are you stuck on the 91 bumper?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Lower the car back down, paint it a normal color, and lose the rims, and then it will line up.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Originally Posted by bradley23150
Lower the car back down, paint it a normal color, and lose the rims, and then it will line up.
if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all. if you would get out of the 80s and catch up to todays world with just a little bit of vision then you would understand but who cares wat you think.

and yes for the moment im stuck with this 91 bumper havent found on in good condition around here for a reasonable price i got this one in great condition for $20 i think im gonna get some rear 91 ground effects think that would work??

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

What bumper is currently on your car in the picture of it? That sure doesn't look like it lines up right. Is that why you want to change it? I don't think it's going to look right at all if you try to modify the bumper, you would probably need to re-form the plastic in some way.
I'd either put on the gfx that match the bumper, or the right bumper to match the gfx.

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 03:15 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

i agree lose the pimp wheels and what the hell is you thinking putting butterfly doors on your ride...but pleas reconsider on the appearance or your car for your camaros sake...but yeah try "classic industries" for that ground effect. no other year is compatible with 91 other than 92
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

i like the color
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

the 91 bumper should work with out a problem. 85-92 front bumpers that have ground effects are the exsact same. I am not sure whats wrong with ur bumper but there isn't anything wrong with it when it comes to a 91 bumper and 89 ground effects. I have put a 91 front gorund effect on an 86 bumper. Perfect bolt up. Are you sure that the bolts are in correctly and tight? The bracket is the only thing that i know of that could be messing up. -Matt
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

post some close-ups, it looks like the entire bumper is misaligned with the fender. Also, it's against board rules to purposely get around the censoring of words. You should learn to handle people's comments better than that. You couldn't have gone with those rims and doors on a 3rd gen and expected every remark to be positive. Contrary to what your statement implies, your style is hardly standard for "today's world". Many many people don't like that look and some will choose to express it. What's more important is how you react to it.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

while i would never do that to my car.. i do like the color, and would not put somebody down for being different. if every car looked the same then the car hobby would just suck. i do not expect everyone to think that my car is the coolest on the planet (when/ if it ever gets done). i am building what I like.

sorry though.. no advice on the bumper. i am fairly new to third gen camaros.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Personally i like the car. not a fan of the rims, but overall the car looks good. And i LOVE the color. And with long doors like ours, its nice to have butterfly doors in parkin lots. So its a matter of opinion.

But ya it looks like the bumper isn't lined up with the fender right. please post some close ups.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

no one is putting no one down. all im saying is that a camaro is a muscle car its not a truck or suv to but big wheels like that dont get me wrong i like big wheels just not on a camaro but your right to each his own
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Originally Posted by third_genbowtie
no one is putting no one down. all im saying is that a camaro is a muscle car its not a truck or suv to but big wheels like that dont get me wrong i like big wheels just not on a camaro but your right to each his own
Guys, he is asking for help, not asking for your opinion of his car.
Post some better pics of the area where it's not fitting. Also, post some pics of the inside fender. You probably don't have it aligned correctly.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

91/92 GFX are lower than the 85-89, I have an 89 and a 92. You should do alright if you get GFX for91/92 rear quarter, however they may attach different.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

The car is not my taste either, but I have got great help from this board and he is asking a good question so like the car or not offer some help or joke around but dont take a crap on someones car.He has a love of his thirdgen.bradley23150 did make me laugh! Heres my take on your problem having pulled my nose yesterday.I think you have a broken mouting stud or studs(they bolt thru the fender) or there is a tear in the corner of the of the cover near the mounting plate causing the cover to hang,mine has this problem I am repairing it with SEM products Bumper repair.Post up some better pics Kinda hard to see.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Originally Posted by Al Hasse
91/92 GFX are lower than the 85-89, I have an 89 and a 92. You should do alright if you get GFX for91/92 rear quarter, however they may attach different.
look at the picture. He clearly has the front bumper cover improperly mounted, which is causing his ground effects to not line up. He doesn't need to convert to the 91/92 ground effects, his 85-90 style will mount just fine if he gets everything aligned properly.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

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look at the picture. He clearly has the front bumper cover improperly mounted, which is causing his ground effects to not line up. He doesn't need to convert to the 91/92 ground effects, his 85-90 style will mount just fine if he gets everything aligned properly.
Yeah, I misread that before I posted, thanks. He wrote bumper instead of nose and I thought rear which wouldn't be compatible except with the quarter trim pieces. Noses are the same and like you said, he needs to find how it's misaligned , be it missing hardware or a mounting problem. Kind of hard to see in the picture.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

Originally Posted by Al Hasse
Yeah, I misread that before I posted, thanks. He wrote bumper instead of nose and I thought rear which wouldn't be compatible except with the quarter trim pieces. Noses are the same and like you said, he needs to find how it's misaligned , be it missing hardware or a mounting problem. Kind of hard to see in the picture.
sorry if I came off as rude. It's interesting how people have different terms for the same thing. I was reading a post yesterday where someone was referring to front ground effects as a spoiler and I've also seen it called a front valence (in the actual service manual). I've seen bumper, bumper cover, nose and nose cone all used interchangably too. Moving from the NYC area to Buffalo, I've been waging the Soda vs. Pop battle for 7 1/2 years now!
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

to everyone that has replied thanks for your help and comments. i did forget to mention that its the rear bumper that doesn't line up. i have a new front clip that lines up perfectly, the car is no longer orange. i would post pics of my build as its going right now, i would but there is NO post your ride section or project rides section. where people can show off there build which i think this site is missing very much. any ways its the rear 91 bumper that im having problems with and im going to paint the car myself and its going to be black. cherry or glossy black. i respect that everyone has a opinion about other peoples cars i just dont care i dont bash people for having no vision and just keeping everything stock. thats the most boring thing in the world when your car looks the exact same as the next mans other than paint and interior WOW big deal i have creativity im young and thats how i like my car and the ladies do too so thats all that matters
i dont care wat the next man thinks or has thats a womans job
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

The picture of your car showed the front bumper cover being misaligned, but i guess that problem was already fixed. Since it's the rear, than refer to Al Hasse's post. The rear bumper cover has the ground effects molded into it, unlike the front bumper cover where it bolts on. Because of this, the 85-90 version of the rear bumper cover and the 91-92 versions are not interchangable.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

heres a pic of wats going on

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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

The rear effects arent interchangeable as stated above. Youll have to try and find an 85-90 in order for it to line up is what Im thinking.from the close ups it appears that u have it mounted properly any more pics?

Womans Job??? sorry but i had to...rather rude to us mechanicaly inclined females all in good fun though im not that offended lmao
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

did ya get it fixed?
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

well that changes everything. Anyways with the new info... Try getting 91-92 rear quater extensions. Look on ebay, craigslist.com etc. Thats what the problem is. Which side ground effects do you have? the aero kit with the "vents" in them or the straight iroc-z style? which ever you got the most of. Keep that one. -Matt
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

since the GFX extensions he had were from 89 and the picture posted above shows all 1989 style ground effects, it appears he just bought the wrong bumper cover not knowing that there was a change made for 91 and 92.

So the solution is to sell the 1991 rear bumper cover you have now and buy one from an 85-90 car that came equiped with ground effects. Be aware that there were 85-90 cars that DIDN'T have ground effects, so don't buy one of those!
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

thats true. But he might have thought of converting. Only thing is thats a good deal of work. But yea i assume that ur right. Thanks for pointing that out. -Matt
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

20's on a camaro
Originally Posted by bradley23150
Lower the car back down, paint it a normal color, and lose the rims, and then it will line up.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Re: 91 bumper doesnt line up with my 89 ground effects

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20's on a camaro
Wow... really ?

You replied to a buried post, just to be a troll....
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