Body General body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modifications.

scotch-weld

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:43 PM
  #1  
Tonglebeak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 4bbl
scotch-weld

Hi, does anyone here have any experience using Scotch-weld? Looks like it's a structural adhesive. They have so many different variations (adhesives, epoxies, etc). Part of my floorpan broke through and I'd like to attach a new piece, but with no welding equipment, I'll have a difficult time doing this. However, scotch-weld caught my eye.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 03:03 PM
  #2  
IROC#1's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
From: Renton, WA
Car: 1988 IROC Z
Engine: 5.7 litre
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27 Posi with 4 wheel disc brakes
Re: scotch-weld

I know others have tried this same thing....Since these cars are unibody the floorpan is part of the structural strength of the car--using glue to hold metal in place will get you a floorpan but not structural integrity you need.
You should be able to open the yellow pages (or do a search online) to welding and call a shop. Bring the car in along with your sheetmetal and they should be able to weld a piece in there for you. I wouldnt think it would be very expensive either.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 06:03 PM
  #3  
Tonglebeak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 4bbl
Re: scotch-weld

Thanks for the reply. I know when I asked maaco a while ago, they wanted $320. Never went back lol. I was just hoping an epoxy with a high shear strength would get the job done :\

I'm guessing the floorpan was weakened, to begin with, due to the lack of SFC connectors. If I install SFC connectors, would that take quite a bit of load off the floorpan then?

Last edited by Tonglebeak; Aug 5, 2010 at 06:07 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:18 PM
  #4  
Maverick H1L's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,240
Likes: 6
From: LeRoy, NY
Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
Engine: 2.7L V6
Transmission: 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.41
Re: scotch-weld

3M also makes autobody structural adhesive... The same kind of stuff now used in factories around the world (Porsche, Lambo I think). But it requires a special applicator "caulk" gun that's also a small chunk of change. I plan on using the Automix system on my quarter panel, since I am also in the same boat with no welding supplies (or the money or electrical service for them in the garage).

Oh, and SFCs are a good idea to tighten up the body a bit... Going to do those at the same time since body flex has already cracked the lower driver's corner of my windshield .
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:34 PM
  #5  
bsporty's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
From: Browns mills NJ
Car: 85 Z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: 5 speed
Re: scotch-weld

We use Crest panel bond...its the same type of glue that bonds the tiles to the outside of space shuttles.
If its a small patch on the floor it would be acceptable to use glue.If the floor pan needs to be replaced you will need to weld it.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:38 PM
  #6  
Killert's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 473
Likes: 2
From: Norristown PA
Car: 88 Firebird.
Engine: 383 HSR
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.27:1 Diskbrakes
Re: scotch-weld

Originally Posted by Maverick H1L
3M also makes autobody structural adhesive... .
My dad and I used that stuff to hang new skins on his F150 truck bed. That stuff is strong. It wasn't cheap though.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:40 PM
  #7  
Maverick H1L's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,240
Likes: 6
From: LeRoy, NY
Car: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
Engine: 2.7L V6
Transmission: 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.41
Re: scotch-weld

Haha. Yeah. $45 on eBay right now, plus another at least $60 for the gun... I'm planning on also getting the seam sealer that comes with the gun for $75 (so I don't have to buy the gun separate).
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:20 PM
  #8  
Tonglebeak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 4bbl
Re: scotch-weld

Originally Posted by bsporty
We use Crest panel bond...its the same type of glue that bonds the tiles to the outside of space shuttles.
If its a small patch on the floor it would be acceptable to use glue.If the floor pan needs to be replaced you will need to weld it.
It's close to a 1x1 (foot) hole. If glue + SFC connectors (which I already have) will be acceptable, then thank god.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 AM.