Dose anyone have any pics. of a 4th gen. console in there 3rd gen. T/A' or Firebirds?(except for you nosaint I know what yours looks like(looks great))I'm looking for the newer kind with the extra front cupholders(like in the 2000 model)Has anyone put one in and did you have any problems?

 

I have one in my car, but I'm still in the process of getting everything setup right.

The front cup holder will get scratched to all hell or may not even move at all if you try to use the stock radio/climate pod. I'm having to rework the bottom right portion to allow for clearance and still keep the cup holder functional.

Had to make a plate to mount the window switches where the ash tray resided, fairly easy. Not sure what I'm going to do with the mirror controls yet though. Probably put them where the second fixed cup holder is right in front of the storage lid.

Other than that, the fit is a direct bolt in.

I'll get some pics down the road as I start to put my interior back together.

You can see pics of the window switch mount here. http://www.caraudioresources.net/ins...console_1.html



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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

some more pics. would be great.I'm concered about the fit under the radio pod,how tight is it??

 

Tight enough that you can not turn out the cup holder.

The problem is that the front of the console sits a little high because it needs to clear the shift linkage on the shifter. This causes a very very tight fit up against the radio pod.

I have already choped into my radio pod, but if I get a chance this weekend I'll try to take some pics to give you an idea.

Just be sure that you start off with a manual shift plate whether you have auto or manual now. The auto shift plate will absolutely not fit.

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

I have already purchased a 2000 modle console (6 speed and I have an auto)I have heard that the automatics wouldn't work.......gndprx I thank you for info and hope there is someone out there with a little more info or ideas about making it fit.I should be getting mine sometime this week and cant wait to get started on it

 

i have a 6 speed auto out of a 97 camaro with the cup thing in the front, and i have no problems with mine, and i got my six the automatic to work to. people been been asking for pics, but i'm been really busy lately. i'll try to get some tomorrow so you can see how it turned out for me. like i said, it's a 97 camaro console (the newer style wit the cup holders in the back too), in my 91 rs cnvt. but it is possible though. all you need is a dremel.

 

It might be a little different fit in the camaro since the radio pod sits a little different. The 97+ camaro and firebird consoles are identical from what I've seen.

 

does the color match well with the rest of the dash? do they make black consoles?

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Jeremy
91 rs, convertible, K&N, Edelbrock open element cleaner, 3.73, B&M mega-shifter, goodmark cowl-induction hood,tinted windows,MacEwen Overlays
Coming soon...non red interior with 4th gen charcoal/grey seats

 

GrdPrx!!!!
I got my console today and the only problem is there was no ashtray with it..Do you want to sell me yours sence you arn't using it??If you still have it..???????

 

I'll have to look and see if I kept it. Where are you planning to mount your window and mirror switches?

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

I wish I had some window switches to worry about..

 

well this topic keeps sliding farther and farther down,but I still havn't seen any pics. yet,,,ANYONE??

 

here is an idea, but you'll have to bear with the striped out interior as I'm building alot of custom pieces from scratch.

http://www.caraudioresources.net/ins...d_radio_4.html

The purple thing you see is the fleece being molded around a frame for a new radio-a/c-video housing. Video will go up top next to where the vents are normally, vents staying in the same spot, two gauges on the far right will be moved into the a-piller, other two will be small gauges between the tach and the monitor.

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

CLOSER!!

lookin good, i had the idea of sliding vents OVER to the right, (easy on your and my car) and then put video inplace of right gauge, put that, top a pillar, and tv in place

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ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
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What the heck is that purple thing?
I am doing the same thing, but I currently have a 1 piece console with the radio pod and everything together. I should just be able to bolt in a newer style radio pod when I get it mounted, right?

Chris

 

Ummm, read the full post, it explains exactly what the purple thing is...it's fleece that is being molded for fiberglassing.


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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

Hay,GndPrx I'm sure it will look good when you get done,I test fit mine and it looks like all I'm gona have to do is move my shifter over twords the drivers side about ½ inch to level it out and center it,other than that no major problems with fit,I'll get some pics when I complete it,and for those who are wondering yes they do make a black one.

 

Yeah, the black one is out of the camaro is what I was originally told.

 

well I got mine in and also have some pics if anyone wants to post them up here for all to see let me know and I'll have to e-mail them to you.

 

hmm. dont have spot to put em, but id still like to see, heres my addy:
Firebretha@aol.com
thanx,

how would i got about getting off the automatic shifter off a 91 bird?
thnx

and are there any differences in the years that makes one better than other?


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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap

 

Scott,

send them my way and I'll post them for you.

gndprx@bellsouth.net

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

He sent me this pics, and here they are!









[This message has been edited by Scott_92RS (edited June 17, 2001).]

 

Ok, guess I was too slow. Here they are also in smaller form on my site...

http://www.caraudioresources.net/scott_console.shtml

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

Thanks guys for posting the pics for me,,you can see the entire install at
www.nosaint.ca
special thanks to nosaint(tie)for all your help,I can't thank you enough.
If anyone out there is thinking of trying this,,go for it,,it's worth it,,I think they look great.

 

No prob Scott
for the record, go to trans, then click misc.



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1986 Black & Gold WS6
Trans AM...The Muscle Car Lives
...Its just not at home at the moment...

Nosaints Coolzone

 

That console looks great! Too bad it would be such a major hassle to do it in a Camaro. Of course, then I could build my custom center console with my TV built in. Hmmmmm...

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I'm 2 steps ahead of ya Jim

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

What about the gear indicator? Is there one on the console itself or was that normally in the dash on the 4th gens? (That is an auto, right?)

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'88 WS6 Formula - LB9, Auto

1 5/8" SLP Headers, Power Flo Catback, CatCo Cat

 

Because you have to use a manual console, there are no shift indicators, but you should know what gear you are in anyway without looking.

You could setup a series of electrical contact points on the shifter that would light up coresponding LED's mounted elsewhere to display your gear and silk screen the letters on. That's if you really wanted to get custom. Just a thought.

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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

guys please help quick,
im going tommorow for searching,
what Year, model, has the rear cupholders, im looking for what you guys think would look best in a 91 firebird, (unfortunate auto)


THANX

 

I know for a fact that the '97 - '2000 have the rear cupholders and 2 front cupholders, but the '93 - '96 I don't think had them,I think they only have the one up front

 

i just saw my firends 98.
his families, well... anyways its V-6.... and when he made the idea of exaust they wouldnt consider it...
anyways thats lookin good so far, what should i expect to pay so i dont get screwed over

 

Is it hard to tell which gear you are in with no gear **** indicator?

 

I never have any trouble telling what gear i'm in,You have to know your car,when I had a gear indicater I never looked down to see what gear I was in,,,You should be able to pick one up for about $100..some people have gotten them for as cheap as $60 some pay alot more,,it depends on where you get it.

 

I guess I can tell what gear I am in without looking, I just like to be able to make sure. Maybe I can rig up some switches that turn on in each gear and have some kind of trick looking gear indicator. Ahhhh, I've got an idea.....

 

www.dakotadigital.com

has what you need, cept im going manual,

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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap

 

That is sweet! Wire Works also has something similar, but not nearly as cool.

 

SCORe.... somewhat, i found a fourth gen, 99 Z28 manual, grey, their asking 100$.

what do you guys think?

 

ok, i did buy it. except it wont line up right.
i cut off the front tabs. but it wont move foward enough, and wont lay flat in the rear to get the screws in.
what did you guys do to connect the cig lighters?
i hope to be done with it by tommorow pending on ya guys...

THANX.. ill show pics when done, and after alarm install, those toooo...



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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap

 

You can read hom I put mine in at coolzone.ca then click trans at the top left then misc. at the right.I moved my shifter over about ½ in. to level it all out and clear the shifter better,but I didn't have any trouble getting the back to sit down and was even able to use the holes in the inside of the box to screw it down to the orig. holes in the floor board.I did have to temporarally remove the front compartment in front of the gear indicater because it was hitting the shifter cable and would not sit down right,,but after the console top was on it slid right back into place.

 

Scott, buddy, pal......
its nosaint.ca


Pics, we want pics!!

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1986 Black & Gold WS6
Trans AM...The Muscle Car Lives
...Its just not at home at the moment...

Nosaints Coolzone

 

ok, did you guys cut the LIP off. i cut off the mounting tabs, but not the lip...
i can move the sifter over, ? it has the capability, or drill time?

 

Hrmm, I was able to fit mine without moving the shifter over and lined up with the rear mounting holes just peachy.

I think without moving it over your radio pod will be a little offset, but since I'm not using the stock housing I couldn't verify that exactly.

I finally managed to mount both window switches AND mirror controlls in the old ash tray location. So I'm happy now...I'll post pics when I get caught up.

BTW, scott's85t/a E-mail me and I'll get you off that ashtray if you still need it.

gndprx@bellsouth.net


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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

hay nosaint,,what do you want pics of???you know I don't mind to take some pics. of my car!!
and firebreatha if your talking about the long lip that runs beside the pass.seats NO! you don't have to cut that off.you might look and see if its hitting something.Mine was a little tight going between the seats but it didn't need to be cut anyware except for the front tabs.and it will go without moving the shifter over but it looks like it is to far to the pass. side.I moved mine to center it better.
grnprx ,,I e-mailed you,,THANKS ALOT!!

 

hey scott, what did you move to center it better, and how??

thanx, ill be trying to correct it in a bit, i went to nosaints site, and saw that install, but i dont understand what the brackets for....

oi.

and i badly want to see how you mounted the window and mirror.
the cars getting dropped off mon for the alarm... and wont be back till fri

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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap
God Created The Earth, And Then Turned Up The Bass

 

O.K. what I did was move the entire shifter over about ½ in. to the drivers side so that the console would have room to move over too.I put the bracket there to help hold the bottom part of the console over to the drivers side a little,,its prob. not needed but I thought wile I had it all apart I would put it in there to help hold it over.If you look at the bottom part of the console you will see there is a locking tab that holds the top part of the console to the bottom part that hits the right side of the shifter,this is the piece that pushes the lower part to the pass. side. I drilled 4 new holes in the plate that holds the shifter so it could all be moved over.
now when it comes to window and mirror controls,you will have to talk to "GndPrx" because he did all that to his,,I don't have the power windows or mirrors on mine,if you look way up in this post you can see a link to were you can see his window switches he mounted in the ashtray.GOOD LUCK its not hard!

 

Ok, here's a pic. As you can see it takes up literally from side to side in the ash tray. I used a piece of plastic that was a good thickness to it. Cut out everything from the original ash tray except for a lip across the back. Make yourself a template out of cardboard or whatever and trace it out on the plastic. Cut the plastic a little big and sand it down for the best fit.

When you get it right, be very careful cutting out the openings for the switches as they leave very little plastic left in tact. Cut them small with a dremmel and then sand them to the right size opening. Once you are done, sand the parts that will make contact (bottom of the rear and lip, top of the front and under the shifter plate) and plastic weld (2 part plastic epoxy) the piece in place. Wait 24 hours for it to bond and install your switches.



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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

did i mention how grateful i am to you guys?

ok, im going out right now, im gonna drill four new holes, and move it over 1/2 inch, hopeuflly nothing will happen when i change to manual,
i think im going to do the same as you, except, keep the flip lid, itll look hidden, the maybe come up with another lid later out of fiber glass, so no lip, just smooth, so you push it down in the front to flip.
lade da.... i have six cup holders.... six cupholders for six things of starbucks, lol
digi pics are kewl. now i just gotta hurry and get that other computer so i can use em.

 

If you are planning on putting both window switches and mirror controls there, you will not be able to retain the lid. You must remove all of the plastic under where the switches mount, which also takes away the hinge for the lid. also there is physically no room.

If you omitted the mirror controlls, it wouldn't be a problem.

Good luck.


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Carl
CarAudio Resources

 

well, i got down to full understanding of the console,

when you moved it over one inch, did you move the front two screws or did you move all of them, how is that possible on the rear two? theres only like 1/4 inch of room in the rear on the brackethmm.


hmmmmm......................
i could attempt to reFab that part of it.
i pulled in some aluminum sheet, thin, and a wood board 1/8 i think. so im going to try that as the window switches, the spot up front where that hole is in the pics, thats where the lcd is going, i would have loved to put the side view mirrors go....

ah well. a night to play. thanx again guys.
oh, scott. make a tech article, except with details. you know how many times i read nosaints site? over-and-over-and-ov... you get the point.
thank you so much.


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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap
God Created The Earth, And Then Turned Up The Bass