Rusty little toy
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Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
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Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
Rusty little toy
So I finally decided to start doing some work on my 85 Firebird. I pulled the interior some months ago, it previously had a 4th gen dash, seats, doors, and console in various levels of completion (it was installed during college, and the car was a DD). So, after pulling the interior out, I noticed some rust in the floor boards, not as bad as some, not as good as plenty. Honestly, for a T-top car that's been rained in more times than I can count, had the windows accidently left down during thunderstorms, and a chassis with ~300,000 Midwest Daily Driven miles, I'm fairly happy with how it looks...but that doesn't mean it doesn't need work.
I've made a couple phone calls to craigslist welding services to see what it would take to fix (specifically) the rear floor area where there are some quarter sized rust holes
The front has surface rust, but appears to be solid (thusfar). I'm going to plan on getting a wire wheel and going to town with those rusty areas, and if I don't find major rot, I'll plan to POR-15 and finish really start on the carpet.
Here are some photos:
Passenger Rear Floor

Stripped Interior

Purchase Arrived

Pulled out and laid out


From the Rear


Rear Carpet Dropped In

Interior Plastics in "storage"
I've made a couple phone calls to craigslist welding services to see what it would take to fix (specifically) the rear floor area where there are some quarter sized rust holes
The front has surface rust, but appears to be solid (thusfar). I'm going to plan on getting a wire wheel and going to town with those rusty areas, and if I don't find major rot, I'll plan to POR-15 and finish really start on the carpet.Here are some photos:
Passenger Rear Floor

Stripped Interior

Purchase Arrived

Pulled out and laid out


From the Rear


Rear Carpet Dropped In

Interior Plastics in "storage"
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Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
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Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
Re: Rusty little toy
Surprisingly enough, I didn't have rust at the rear of the car, considering how badly the trunk area leaked when the car was spending it's life outdoors, I find that amazing. So, I dropped the rear carpet in for the time being. Hopefully I won't be looking at costly repairs of the passenger compartment rust.
I hopped under the car very briefly to see what the bottom looked like, and things didn't look bad (minus the rot through the passenger rear floor) Once I get the car up in the air, I'll post some pictures so we can figure out what we're working with. This'll probably be a lonnnng process, but hopefully it'll go slowly and steadily and not just fade away...like it had for the previous 3 years
I hopped under the car very briefly to see what the bottom looked like, and things didn't look bad (minus the rot through the passenger rear floor) Once I get the car up in the air, I'll post some pictures so we can figure out what we're working with. This'll probably be a lonnnng process, but hopefully it'll go slowly and steadily and not just fade away...like it had for the previous 3 years
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Re: Rusty little toy
I have seen alot worse than that and it can be fixed, what I would do is take a screw driver and poke around to see if there are any other soft areas before you hit it with the wire wheel. Good luck with the project.
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Re: Rusty little toy
Dude!
You put that carpet on your bed?!!!
Now you're never gonna get laid!
You put that carpet on your bed?!!!
Now you're never gonna get laid!
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From: St. Louis, MO
Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
Engine: 2.8L, LS1
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
Re: Rusty little toy
LoL, it's the spare bedroom...so life's good (if the wife kicks me out though, i have to sleep on carpet).
Good idea on the screwdriver. I've looked around on this board and seen worse rust, but unfortunately i have limited funds and know how when it comes to welding. Hoping one of these guys actually calls back eventually, but so far it's been goose eggs.
Would you guys recommend buying a replacement RH Floor Pan and cutting it up to fit? Or cutting out the scrap, and replacing it with some mild steel. I'm not worried about how it looks, just functionality, and strength. I'll likely add some SFC's while we're here.
I've messed around with welding twice, and know that you don't want to lay a bead on sheet metal, just the heavy gauge stuff, but I don't know how successful id be.
Good idea on the screwdriver. I've looked around on this board and seen worse rust, but unfortunately i have limited funds and know how when it comes to welding. Hoping one of these guys actually calls back eventually, but so far it's been goose eggs.
Would you guys recommend buying a replacement RH Floor Pan and cutting it up to fit? Or cutting out the scrap, and replacing it with some mild steel. I'm not worried about how it looks, just functionality, and strength. I'll likely add some SFC's while we're here.
I've messed around with welding twice, and know that you don't want to lay a bead on sheet metal, just the heavy gauge stuff, but I don't know how successful id be.
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Re: Rusty little toy
That rot isnt bad at all. I say just cut the areas and weld in new metal as a new pan wouldnt be usefull as you will only use 20% of it if your lucky
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From: St. Louis, MO
Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
Engine: 2.8L, LS1
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
Re: Rusty little toy
For the floor steel, do you guys recommend 22 gauge, or 18 gauge?
Last edited by 85f-bird; Mar 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM.
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