Body General body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modifications.

time to do the door hinges

Old 06-19-2014, 12:07 PM
  #1  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
 
rusty vango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: knoxville tn
Posts: 2,036
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700-R-4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 open
time to do the door hinges

its time to rebuild the door hinges on my 86. how big of a PITA is this job?i will be doing it by my self,unfortunately. any tips or tricks reccomended? also does anyone know where to buy the spring installation tool?
rusty vango is offline  
Old 06-19-2014, 12:33 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Caveman305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Newburg, MD
Posts: 1,090
Car: '89 RS, '89 Iroc
Engine: L03, LB9
Transmission: 700r4, T5
Axle/Gears: 2.73, 3.08
Re: time to do the door hinges

Originally Posted by rusty vango View Post
its time to rebuild the door hinges on my 86. how big of a PITA is this job?i will be doing it by my self,unfortunately. any tips or tricks reccomended? also does anyone know where to buy the spring installation tool?
some say its a PITA, some say its not so bad
its going to depend on how you view working on cars

the job is much easier if you build a support frame that will hold the door, and mount it on a jack to hold the weight of the door and place it where you need it

here is the tool, and its from one of our trusted vendors!

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/too...or-spring-tool
Caveman305 is offline  
Old 06-19-2014, 09:04 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (28)
 
TIMMYS89GTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ocklawaha FL.
Posts: 1,564
Car: 81z-28,89gta,91z-28 03 1500
Engine: 355,L98vette tpi,327
Transmission: TH350/700R4/700r4/4l80E
Axle/Gears: 3;73/3;27/2;73/3;73
Did a set on an 85 iroc a couple months ago..the spring compressor tool you can pick up at harbor freight for $4..
TIMMYS89GTA is offline  
Old 06-19-2014, 10:06 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member
 
TheExaminer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,122
Car: 92 Formula WS6, T-top
Engine: 5.7L T.P.I.
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Limited slip, 3.23 10 bolt
Re: time to do the door hinges

Originally Posted by rusty vango View Post
its time to rebuild the door hinges on my 86. how big of a PITA is this job?i will be doing it by my self,unfortunately. any tips or tricks reccomended? also does anyone know where to buy the spring installation tool?
Harbor Freight has one for pretty cheap. Can't remember what I paid for mine, but it was less than $10 I'm pretty sure. The hardest part about hinges for my 4th gen Camaro was getting the pin out. I don't have air tools so I had a buddy heat it, put a vice grips on it and use an air chisel to pop it out. It can be tough to get it out with regular tools. Of course, my 4th gen hinges were bolted in on both sides, which was both a blessing and curse. They were easy to get out, but it made for more possible adjustments when putting them back in. So don't forget to mark where they were before you take them out!

Last edited by TheExaminer; 06-23-2014 at 11:17 PM.
TheExaminer is offline  
Old 06-23-2014, 10:17 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Smyrna, Georgia
Posts: 3
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1 V6, future LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 3.23
Re: time to do the door hinges

Check out this website for some good info on 3rd gen f-body hinge repair:

http://www.andyz28.com/3rdGen/installation.html
SSgtRS is offline  
Old 07-07-2014, 10:08 PM
  #6  
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 117
Re: time to do the door hinges

I just did them on my 88 ta. Took the doors off the car, ground off the upper hinge bolts and installed new, installed lower hinge bolt, put back on car. Used a jack, a 10mm gear wrench box a 15mm socket for bolts. had to have someone position door while I installed the top rear bolt, otherwise alone.
redfivexw is offline  
Old 08-03-2014, 03:59 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: South East UK
Posts: 4
Car: Pontiac Firebird Formula / Trans Am
Engine: 5 Litre V8
Transmission: 700 R4
Re: time to do the door hinges

To support the door (when the hinge is removed) an old style step ladder is idea to put over the door then put a strap or rope around the door to suspend it from the step ladder. Pad the door with a cloth or something so it does not chaffe the paint.
FXmanDan is offline  
Old 08-03-2014, 04:11 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member
 
TheExaminer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,122
Car: 92 Formula WS6, T-top
Engine: 5.7L T.P.I.
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Limited slip, 3.23 10 bolt
Re: time to do the door hinges

Originally Posted by FXmanDan View Post
To support the door (when the hinge is removed) an old style step ladder is idea to put over the door then put a strap or rope around the door to suspend it from the step ladder. Pad the door with a cloth or something so it does not chaffe the paint.
Interesting idea. Will have to look into that......
TheExaminer is offline  
Old 08-03-2014, 05:31 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: South East UK
Posts: 4
Car: Pontiac Firebird Formula / Trans Am
Engine: 5 Litre V8
Transmission: 700 R4
Re: time to do the door hinges

I think the worst part of the job is grinding the rivits out of the top hinge. But then I only had a little multi tool thing that was wanting to burn out. The ladder idea makes it a lot easier tho. Using a jack is probably ok but at least if its securely suspended from the step ladder it cant fall. It could fall off of a jack and be damaged.
FXmanDan is offline  
Old 08-04-2014, 10:38 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Georgetown TX
Posts: 1,899
Car: Base 91 'bird
Engine: 3.1 v6
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt 3.27 & PBR
Re: time to do the door hinges

Make sure you mark the current hinge locations for re-installation.
Base91 is offline  
Old 08-06-2014, 12:07 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 547
Car: 91 G92 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 342
Re: time to do the door hinges

I parked my car under a beam that runs the length of my garage. Then strung the door up with ratchet straps (under the door and over the beam). Then put a jack with a block of wood and a towel under the door. The straps were pretty much just to keep the door from falling off the floor jack. I only moved the door a few inches away from the car to work on the hinges..then slowly moved it back into place when I was done. Would have been easier with a door support frame or a helper...but I made due with what I had available.
greenyone is offline  
Old 08-08-2014, 12:41 AM
  #12  
Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hacienda Heights, CA
Posts: 5,876
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: time to do the door hinges

it is easier to grind off the heads of the old upper pin if you remove the large triangular shaped chunk of rubber that is at the top of the door weatherstrip. There is one hidden screw that attaches it to the door. To remove the screw you have to remove the inner door trim panel. The "lazy" way would be to just break off the plastic tab from that triangular shaped piece, then reglue it in place afterward. I've never done it this way, nor do I recommend it. Removing the inner door trim panel is a bit of a PITA until you learn the tricks to it.

Once you have all the attachments free (door handle door lock, ect. Then pop all the plastic christmas tree fasteners free from the perimiter. Now slightly pull the panel out from the door while lifting it, then shove the door trim panel to the front or back of the door. This will release the top clips from their attachments. It is much easier to install than remove.

I sell the door hinrge repair parts and the tools that make the job easier on my web site.

Good luck.

Lon
lonsal is offline  
Old 08-08-2014, 05:40 PM
  #13  
Supreme Member
 
thomas1976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: West-Central
Posts: 2,198
Car: 91 Trans am
Engine: built 360 TBI
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10bolt/3.23
Re: time to do the door hinges

I used the transmission hoist to do the job.



Masking tape to protect the body from scratches.



Alignment marks, like already pointed out.
A 13mm ratchet wrench made the job a lot easier.

Attached Thumbnails time to do the door hinges-door-hinges-transmission-hoist.jpg   time to do the door hinges-protecting-body.jpg   time to do the door hinges-alignment-marks.jpg  

Last edited by thomas1976; 10-27-2014 at 05:19 PM.
thomas1976 is offline  
Old 08-08-2014, 05:49 PM
  #14  
Supreme Member
 
thomas1976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: West-Central
Posts: 2,198
Car: 91 Trans am
Engine: built 360 TBI
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10bolt/3.23
Re: time to do the door hinges

With my new oscillating cutting tool it took no longer than 2 minutes for each pin, without removing any weatherstripping. The down side is I needed 3 blades, each blade was only good enough to cut 1 and a half pin.





For the door hinge roller pin
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...88-post30.html

Write ups
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/060...-chevy-camaro/
http://andyz28.com/3rdGen/installation.html

Parts
http://www.top-downsolutions.com/Bod...and-roller-kit
http://www.top-downsolutions.com/Bod...ir-kit-(deluxe)
Attached Thumbnails time to do the door hinges-new-cutting-tool.jpg   time to do the door hinges-door-ready-install.jpg  

Last edited by thomas1976; 10-27-2014 at 05:20 PM. Reason: add links
thomas1976 is offline  
Old 12-26-2015, 09:29 AM
  #15  
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Car: -88 TA GTA
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: TH700
Re: time to do the door hinges

[QUOTE=thomas1976;5803105]With my new oscillating cutting tool it took no longer than 2 minutes for each pin, without removing any weatherstripping. The down side is I needed 3 blades, each blade was only good enough to cut 1 and a half pin.

Hello,
Im about to do this repair, and i have one of these tools, a Dremel MM40.
Would it be possible to cut the pins without removing the door? The weatherstrip is not the best, so some damage to it is not a big concern.
I have the other kind of machine too, for the cutting discs, but this seems more efficient...
HasseO is offline  
Old 12-26-2015, 01:32 PM
  #16  
Supreme Member
 
thomas1976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: West-Central
Posts: 2,198
Car: 91 Trans am
Engine: built 360 TBI
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10bolt/3.23
Re: time to do the door hinges

Originally Posted by HasseO View Post
Hello,
Im about to do this repair, and i have one of these tools, a Dremel MM40.
Would it be possible to cut the pins without removing the door? The weatherstrip is not the best, so some damage to it is not a big concern.
I have the other kind of machine too, for the cutting discs, but this seems more efficient...
I don't think so, but I would have to look at it again, I remember it being a tight spot, particularly the lower one.

Last edited by thomas1976; 12-27-2015 at 01:45 PM.
thomas1976 is offline  
Old 12-26-2015, 04:19 PM
  #17  
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Car: -88 TA GTA
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: TH700
Re: time to do the door hinges

Hi,
Thanks. I you could I would be very grateful. My car is 40 miles)70km) away from here and I would like to be prepared and bring all the right tools.
I read up on this from several posts here, but would prefer not to remove it completely. The lower pin has to be cut too?

regards,
Hasse
HasseO is offline  
Old 12-27-2015, 02:14 PM
  #18  
Supreme Member
 
thomas1976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: West-Central
Posts: 2,198
Car: 91 Trans am
Engine: built 360 TBI
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10bolt/3.23
Re: time to do the door hinges

There is no space to work, door has to come off.

The pin on the bottom hinge is simple to remove, though the door has to come off for that one too.



Pic of the lower pin of the top hinge
thomas1976 is offline  
Old 12-27-2015, 02:55 PM
  #19  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
KITT1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 2,803
Car: 1983 Pontiac Trans Am Daytona 500
Engine: Crossfire 305ci V8
Transmission: Jasper 700R4 4 speed Automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.23 limited slip/posi
Re: time to do the door hinges

I need to do my doors soon
KITT1983 is offline  
Old 12-27-2015, 03:49 PM
  #20  
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Car: -88 TA GTA
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: TH700
Re: time to do the door hinges

Thanks Thomas, for taking the time.
The part I dislike the most is actually removing the inner panels...
Those plastic clips and things are so prone to braking and the door panel too.
But best do do it properly.

regards,
Hasse
HasseO is offline  
Old 02-20-2019, 03:54 PM
  #21  
Junior Member
 
MobileHomie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Nevada
Posts: 5
Car: '87 IROCZ
Engine: 414 Iron Block SBC
Transmission: T-350 w/brake
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" 4.30:1
Re: time to do the door hinges

I am sorry for bumping this old thread.
I bought a door hinge and bushing kit from Hawk Motorsport hawkmotorsports.com/bushing-pin-camaro-firebird-82-92-greaseable-upper-door-hinge-bushing-and-lower-pin-kit/
They listed this for a tutorial http://andyz28.com/3rdGen/installation.html
and the link is broken or the site is gone
Any help would be appreciated.
Biggest question is do I have to remove the fender?
MobileHomie is offline  
Old 02-20-2019, 05:26 PM
  #22  
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North East GA
Posts: 1,871
Car: 1989 Firebird
Engine: 5.7 LS1
Transmission: T56
Re: time to do the door hinges

The Grease-able pins are made by (or exact copies of) http://www.top-downsolutions.com/doo...)?search=hinge reach out to him, the owner's name is Lon.

Or call Hawks they sold it make them support it.

FWIW I did mine with my fenders off the car... it is super easy to do just takes time cutting and punching out the old pins.
Aviator857 is offline  
Old 02-20-2019, 05:39 PM
  #23  
Sponsor
iTrader: (81)
 
Tuned Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mile High Country !!!
Posts: 11,747
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: time to do the door hinges

I did mine fenders on.To support the door. I took three 2x4s and nailed them together to make a u shaped cradle. I bolted on a socket on the bottom so it would fit perfectly into a floor jack.


Last edited by Tuned Performance; 02-20-2019 at 05:42 PM.
Tuned Performance is offline  
Old 03-10-2019, 06:49 PM
  #24  
Member
 
427seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 246
Car: 1989 Firebird GTA
Engine: Motown Aluminum 427
Transmission: TH400/GVO
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 IRS 3.75:1
Re: time to do the door hinges

Fenders on, if you have a buddy it's a big help, did mine myself almost exactly like Tuned Performance...
427seven is offline  
Old 03-10-2019, 06:53 PM
  #25  
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North East GA
Posts: 1,871
Car: 1989 Firebird
Engine: 5.7 LS1
Transmission: T56
Re: time to do the door hinges

The only reason I did mine fenders off was I had them off for painting the engine bay. Otherwise I would not pull fenders just to do the pins.


One note I bent one of the light switches in the door jam, so if you do it fenders off pull those switches first.
Aviator857 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
10
05-15-2019 12:02 AM
1992 Trans Am
History / Originality
22
02-03-2019 04:10 AM
Frozer!!!
Camaros for Sale
26
11-01-2017 01:06 AM
86IROC112
Body
47
04-09-2016 10:20 PM
BlackTopKing
Body
18
08-19-2015 12:13 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: time to do the door hinges


Advertising
Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory

Contact Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: