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11-19-2002, 08:39 AM
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Car: '88 Iroc, '91 RS, and a '70 RS
Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
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11-19-2002, 09:07 AM
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Car: '88 Iroc, '91 RS, and a '70 RS
Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
Not truly "aftermarket" but I'm running the 1LE setup and couldn't be happier. This route will be a bit cheaper than Baer or SSBC and gives you practically the same system. For looks you could always get drilled/slotted rotors and have the calipers coated.
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11-19-2002, 09:46 AM
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Car: 89 Formula / 09 G8
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Goto the BAER website. They have a sheet that you print out that will show you if you can fit the Track system in your rims.
Yes the wheels stick out 1/2" I kinda corrected that with the wheel adaptors that I am using. Just think of it as a "wide track" Camaro
Yes the wheels stick out 1/2" I kinda corrected that with the wheel adaptors that I am using. Just think of it as a "wide track" Camaro
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11-19-2002, 11:20 AM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z
Engine: 427 SBC
Transmission: MDP T56
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Im running the 12" Baer kit w/ slotted/drilled/zinc washed 2 piece rotors...
I love them..
I will post some pictures later when I @ the house....
I love them..
I will post some pictures later when I @ the house....
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11-19-2002, 07:36 PM
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Im also thinking about getting the baer brakes on my rs. I dont think i got enough money to both front and rears so which is more important to do baers on the fronts or change the rears to disk.
11-19-2002, 07:57 PM
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are they zinc washed?
doesn't baer have any kind of protective coating to prevent this. or do looks go out the window once they are on the car?
is there any way to post a pic of the setup as it is or possible send me a personal picture if you don't want to post. i'd like to see where it's rusting.
it's alot of money to spend and i'd like to know what i'm getting into.
doesn't baer have any kind of protective coating to prevent this. or do looks go out the window once they are on the car?
is there any way to post a pic of the setup as it is or possible send me a personal picture if you don't want to post. i'd like to see where it's rusting.
it's alot of money to spend and i'd like to know what i'm getting into.
11-19-2002, 08:26 PM
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$1,515 for a track system for a 82-92..........this is what there website says and they don't even specify rotor size or options??
is this some kind of glitch and you order over the phone?
is this some kind of glitch and you order over the phone?
11-20-2002, 12:31 AM
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Right now the brakes are over a hour away from me, but I'll get a pic to send you within the week. They do have some sort of coating on them I was told, but as soon as they are spun in the caliper most of it comes off. Normally it would not be an issue, and mine are not zinc washed that I know of... but i am not 100% sure, I bough them "used", aka installed on a car that never had a motor. I was not involved in the original buying experience.
11-20-2002, 08:32 AM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z
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The Track kit is 13" rotors..
The Sport kit are the 12" rotors...
If those rotors were zinc washed then they shouldnt rust. Mine are zinc washed and still look that way after using them....
The Sport kit are the 12" rotors...
If those rotors were zinc washed then they shouldnt rust. Mine are zinc washed and still look that way after using them....
11-20-2002, 03:49 PM
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Check out www.thunderracing.com go to the brake section in the 3rd gen catalog and you will find the Baer brakes.
The base 13 inch track system is $995 with uncoated solid rotors, their is a pull down menu for the rotor options (zinc coated, slots, slots and drilled). they also have options on the caliper finish that are not listed on the website, that you would have to call Paul to get the details on.
The base 13 inch track system is $995 with uncoated solid rotors, their is a pull down menu for the rotor options (zinc coated, slots, slots and drilled). they also have options on the caliper finish that are not listed on the website, that you would have to call Paul to get the details on.
11-20-2002, 05:31 PM
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12" will fit any 16" rim just about...... 13" will fit "some" 16" 91-92 z28 wheels, not all though as there were a few companies that made the rims and there are different clearances. 
they are sending me a template for that.
here's what is intailed in the price above as i asked for the 13" track kit.
13" 2 peice cross drilled/slotted/ zinc washed rotors with color anodized hat, polished 2 piston pbr caliper, the lines and all the other little stuff.
around 1600 for the front. (2 peice rotor, color other than black anodize for the hat, and polished caliper are all the most expensive upgrades) (12"-13" is only a 10 dollar difference).
roughly another 300 to get the rear 11.5 or whatever to match.
2 g's in all to have this setup.....
after all this i certainly see why most try the 1-LE setup or run the cheapest baer setup possible.
they are sending me a template for that.
here's what is intailed in the price above as i asked for the 13" track kit.
13" 2 peice cross drilled/slotted/ zinc washed rotors with color anodized hat, polished 2 piston pbr caliper, the lines and all the other little stuff.
around 1600 for the front. (2 peice rotor, color other than black anodize for the hat, and polished caliper are all the most expensive upgrades) (12"-13" is only a 10 dollar difference).
roughly another 300 to get the rear 11.5 or whatever to match.
2 g's in all to have this setup.....
after all this i certainly see why most try the 1-LE setup or run the cheapest baer setup possible.
11-21-2002, 12:31 PM
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Car: 87 T/A
Engine: TPI 350 ci
Transmission: 5 speed
mine is the Stainless Steel Brake kit for the front. The 9 bolt rear already has the 12" rotors.
Here's the difference between the stock and the 1LE rotors.
Here's the difference between the stock and the 1LE rotors.
11-23-2002, 07:55 PM
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How much do those rotors cost?
For me it's not so much the cost of the kit, it's the cost of rplacement rotors and pads. And this is where I think Baer will be more costly.
How much do those rotors cost?
For me it's not so much the cost of the kit, it's the cost of rplacement rotors and pads. And this is where I think Baer will be more costly.
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see that's where the misconseption comes into play........
baer is expensive for rotors yes, but only when you look at what options your dealing with.
technically if you were to warp a rotor you could use the 1-le rotor as an emergency if cash was low............pads, not to worry there either as you can go and get pads for a corvette or even an newer cobra mustang as they are identical in a way.
the only thing expensive about baer is the options.........it's also what makes them look so hot. keep up on your brakes and you shouldn't have a problem.
baer is expensive for rotors yes, but only when you look at what options your dealing with.
technically if you were to warp a rotor you could use the 1-le rotor as an emergency if cash was low............pads, not to worry there either as you can go and get pads for a corvette or even an newer cobra mustang as they are identical in a way.
the only thing expensive about baer is the options.........it's also what makes them look so hot. keep up on your brakes and you shouldn't have a problem.
11-24-2002, 07:04 AM
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Car: 87 T/A
Engine: TPI 350 ci
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Kandied91z - I looked at the options and if you're looking for the looks of anodized, drilled, slotted, then yes, your cost goes up.
RMK - my conversion kit is from Stainless Steel Brakes. The entire kit was 1235 bux, shipped, complete from bearings and bolts to hoses.
For the 1LE package there are no other options available.
Replacement slotted rotors and pads from SSBC are about 270 bux, plus shipping. Not bad. You could pick up factory rotors at a discount for around 100 bux each.
I get all my GMPP at a discount from Tom Oates Chevy, since I help crew on their SCCA race team, Tiger Racing. I run DuraStops on the street and Hawk 'black' pads at the track.
On the track, the drilled and anodized rotors don't add anything to performance. The anodizing ususally comes off after a session and the drilled rotors usually end up with cracks between the holes after a few hundred miles on track..
RMK - my conversion kit is from Stainless Steel Brakes. The entire kit was 1235 bux, shipped, complete from bearings and bolts to hoses.
For the 1LE package there are no other options available.
Replacement slotted rotors and pads from SSBC are about 270 bux, plus shipping. Not bad. You could pick up factory rotors at a discount for around 100 bux each.
I get all my GMPP at a discount from Tom Oates Chevy, since I help crew on their SCCA race team, Tiger Racing. I run DuraStops on the street and Hawk 'black' pads at the track.
On the track, the drilled and anodized rotors don't add anything to performance. The anodizing ususally comes off after a session and the drilled rotors usually end up with cracks between the holes after a few hundred miles on track..
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11-24-2002, 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
technically if you were to warp a rotor you could use the 1-le rotor as an emergency if cash was low............pads, not to worry there either as you can go and get pads for a corvette or even an newer cobra mustang as they are identical in a way.
technically if you were to warp a rotor you could use the 1-le rotor as an emergency if cash was low............pads, not to worry there either as you can go and get pads for a corvette or even an newer cobra mustang as they are identical in a way.
I take it that you could not use a 1LE rotor with the 13 inch Baer set-up?
Also, are the calipers the same in the 12 and 13 inch Baer set-ups?
11-25-2002, 12:34 AM
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i wouldn't see why you couldn't use the 1-le rotors as replacement for a baer front kit with the 2 piston pbr caliper as the specs for size are pretty much identical........or so it seems??
afterall, the only difference in the two kits is $10 and 1" in diameter...nothing else. which if you can fit them why not?
as far as the looks. normally i probably wouldn't care; but if i'm spending that much anyway i would rather get it built exactly how i wish.
i can see how the zinc coating does where off where there is pad contact. however the anodized shouldn't wear off unless there is rubbing and the like. however, that will be a question that i plan to ask about and if it is true i will go with just a polished hat instead.
overall i myself would rather have the baer kit. side by side with the exact same options there isn't a price difference that would make me consider the 1-le setup seeing as how the baer setup looks so much better. unfortunately the options do rack up like a kid in a candy store.
o'well; hopefully i will get all of this together soon. i'll post pics when i do. i'm just wating on the template to see if the 13" will fit my rims and the it's just a matter of time! :lala:
afterall, the only difference in the two kits is $10 and 1" in diameter...nothing else. which if you can fit them why not?
as far as the looks. normally i probably wouldn't care; but if i'm spending that much anyway i would rather get it built exactly how i wish.
i can see how the zinc coating does where off where there is pad contact. however the anodized shouldn't wear off unless there is rubbing and the like. however, that will be a question that i plan to ask about and if it is true i will go with just a polished hat instead.
overall i myself would rather have the baer kit. side by side with the exact same options there isn't a price difference that would make me consider the 1-le setup seeing as how the baer setup looks so much better. unfortunately the options do rack up like a kid in a candy store.
o'well; hopefully i will get all of this together soon. i'll post pics when i do. i'm just wating on the template to see if the 13" will fit my rims and the it's just a matter of time! :lala:
11-25-2002, 08:58 AM
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how long ago was this............??
they want 1500 for two peice 13" cross drille/slotted/zinc with anodized hat and polished caliper.
what did you do with the caliper?
they want 1500 for two peice 13" cross drille/slotted/zinc with anodized hat and polished caliper.
what did you do with the caliper?
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how long ago was this............??
they want 1500 for two peice 13" cross drille/slotted/zinc with anodized hat and polished caliper.
what did you do with the caliper?
how long ago was this............??
they want 1500 for two peice 13" cross drille/slotted/zinc with anodized hat and polished caliper.
what did you do with the caliper?
Yea the stuff you are optioning for REALLY adds up the price...
I went the standard caliper that comes in the kit... which is basically a two piston caliper...
Talk w/ David @ Thunder Racing.. he can set ya up ...
He is a good guy!!
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11-25-2002, 07:00 PM
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I know these guys dont advertise ont he site, but the cheapest place I've found the Baer kit from www.dcvperformance.com. They dont list the 3rd gen kit on their site, but the Track (13") kit is around $900, and the Sport (12") is around $850. He (Brian) told me that Baer has a real problem shipping their products out, and he's had a couple customers cancel orders because Baer is so slow about fulfilling orders. I am considering ordering the Sport kit soon (Track system wont fit my wheels...), but I'm not decided yet.
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why is he cheaper...........
does he modify them in anyway or try to sell used parts? are they new and identical as if to buy them from baer direct??
thanks for posting the site. the more info the better.
i can't believe the 93-97 track prices........so much cheaper for the brakes.
anyone heard of this place and can back them up?? i'll call in the morning and see what i find out.
does he modify them in anyway or try to sell used parts? are they new and identical as if to buy them from baer direct??
thanks for posting the site. the more info the better.
i can't believe the 93-97 track prices........so much cheaper for the brakes.
anyone heard of this place and can back them up?? i'll call in the morning and see what i find out.
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Car: 1992 RS
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
why is he cheaper...........
does he modify them in anyway or try to sell used parts? are they new and identical as if to buy them from baer direct??
thanks for posting the site. the more info the better.
i can't believe the 93-97 track prices........so much cheaper for the brakes.
anyone heard of this place and can back them up?? i'll call in the morning and see what i find out.
why is he cheaper...........
does he modify them in anyway or try to sell used parts? are they new and identical as if to buy them from baer direct??
thanks for posting the site. the more info the better.
i can't believe the 93-97 track prices........so much cheaper for the brakes.
anyone heard of this place and can back them up?? i'll call in the morning and see what i find out.
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seems rather strange if the spindle causes half the price.......there must be something else.
was the delay in shipping the only downfall?
do the orders go through to him and then to baer where baer sends it you or do you have to wait for baer to send the kit to him and then he sends it to you?
was the delay in shipping the only downfall?
do the orders go through to him and then to baer where baer sends it you or do you have to wait for baer to send the kit to him and then he sends it to you?
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
seems rather strange if the spindle causes half the price.......there must be something else.
was the delay in shipping the only downfall?
do the orders go through to him and then to baer where baer sends it you or do you have to wait for baer to send the kit to him and then he sends it to you?
seems rather strange if the spindle causes half the price.......there must be something else.
was the delay in shipping the only downfall?
do the orders go through to him and then to baer where baer sends it you or do you have to wait for baer to send the kit to him and then he sends it to you?
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i see.............
i hate when companies do that, just charge what they should cost; that way we don't have to search for a decade trying to find the best price. not that i mind, seeing how saving anything is better than nothing. all just marketing scheme's...
i hate when companies do that, just charge what they should cost; that way we don't have to search for a decade trying to find the best price. not that i mind, seeing how saving anything is better than nothing. all just marketing scheme's...
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just got off the phone with brian over there at dcvperformance, seems like with my options and everything i want if i go with him i'll save roughly 200 bucks!!
Scott_92RS, thanks for the link and the suggestions.......!
anyone else know of any place that's cheaper than that? i'm going to keep looking; but this looks like the best deal.
now i just have to decide red powdercoated or polished caliper??
Scott_92RS, thanks for the link and the suggestions.......!
anyone else know of any place that's cheaper than that? i'm going to keep looking; but this looks like the best deal.
now i just have to decide red powdercoated or polished caliper??
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
just got off the phone with brian over there at dcvperformance, seems like with my options and everything i want if i go with him i'll save roughly 200 bucks!!
Scott_92RS, thanks for the link and the suggestions.......!
anyone else know of any place that's cheaper than that? i'm going to keep looking; but this looks like the best deal.
now i just have to decide red powdercoated or polished caliper??
just got off the phone with brian over there at dcvperformance, seems like with my options and everything i want if i go with him i'll save roughly 200 bucks!!
Scott_92RS, thanks for the link and the suggestions.......!
anyone else know of any place that's cheaper than that? i'm going to keep looking; but this looks like the best deal.
now i just have to decide red powdercoated or polished caliper??
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to disassemble and rebuild to make it look right won't be worth it. if your thinking about doing it you'd be better off taking the time to work and make the extra money to pay for it.
it will not look the same as machine polished and hand polished are quite different. but if you still feel the need i say go for it. that's money in your pocket!
as far as finding a spot cheaper....i've got a week before i order them; might as well look right!
it will not look the same as machine polished and hand polished are quite different. but if you still feel the need i say go for it. that's money in your pocket!
as far as finding a spot cheaper....i've got a week before i order them; might as well look right!
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