Disk Brake Setup for Strange 3rd gen 12 bolt rear
Disk Brake Setup for Strange 3rd gen 12 bolt rear
I have a new Strange 12 bolt that I need to setup with disk brakes. Unfortunately I got the rear without the backing plates installed, so I know that I am going to have to pull the axles to install the backing plates, etc.
From what I know, the backing plates and other brakes parts from the original 88 10 bolt wont work, so I am starting from scratch. I found someone who is selling a stock 10 bolt 4th generation rear with LS1 brakes on it.
My question is, if I buy the 4th gen rear would all of the brake parts swap over to the strange 12 bolt without further need for machine work, spacers, etc? I want to use the backing plates, calipers, and rotors. If this would all swap over would this all fit under the stock 16 inch aluminum rims that came on the 88 IROC? Could I get the E-Brake to function with this setup as well?
Thanks in advance for any input!
From what I know, the backing plates and other brakes parts from the original 88 10 bolt wont work, so I am starting from scratch. I found someone who is selling a stock 10 bolt 4th generation rear with LS1 brakes on it.
My question is, if I buy the 4th gen rear would all of the brake parts swap over to the strange 12 bolt without further need for machine work, spacers, etc? I want to use the backing plates, calipers, and rotors. If this would all swap over would this all fit under the stock 16 inch aluminum rims that came on the 88 IROC? Could I get the E-Brake to function with this setup as well?
Thanks in advance for any input!
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Re: Disk Brake Setup for Strange 3rd gen 12 bolt rear
You won't have to pull the axles to install the plates, the plates will slip through the axles. You'll need to know what style housing end you have and if they're flush mount for "LS1" brakes or standard, like a Big Ford pattern. Also, you need to know what size bolt to use and if the housing pattern is offset or not, Strange and Moser usually offset by 90* for some odd reason, drives me nuts. If the housing ends aren't flush, you'll need to machine the LS1 backing plates for that and also remove the bearings to install them onto the axles.
E-brake operation will depend on which setup you run but likely you'll have to start all over and use brakes other than the '88 parts.
Here's an example of the parts you'd need, depending on your bolt pattern:
http://www.flynbye.com/sitebuilderco...llFordweb1.jpg
Ed
E-brake operation will depend on which setup you run but likely you'll have to start all over and use brakes other than the '88 parts.
Here's an example of the parts you'd need, depending on your bolt pattern:
http://www.flynbye.com/sitebuilderco...llFordweb1.jpg
Ed
Re: Disk Brake Setup for Strange 3rd gen 12 bolt rear
Thanks for the reply Ed,
I still have not made progress on this job (not had much time), but would love to resolve this.
This is a link to the exact rear I have (its the PRG200):
http://www.strangeengineering.net/catalog/pdf/078.pdf The housing ends don't vary from one rear to the next, and I am sure Strange can provide more specifics on the ends if needed.
So I THINK your saying that to avoid having to pull the axles, I would need to use aftermarket backing plates that are horse shoe shaped (or like a "C") that could be bolted to the housing ends without pulling the axles. I'm pretty confident that if I were to use the stock backing plates off of a 4th Gen I'd have to pull the axels since they just have a hole that the axles goes through (no "C" shape like in the picture you gave the link to). Is that all correct?
Do you know if there is a Kit that I could get that would come with the brackets, calipers, rotors, etc? I am not married to the idea of using factory brakes from a forth Gen, I am open to options. In the end it would be very nice, but not mandatory, if I did not have to pull the axles. A requirement is that whatever brakes I go with fit under the factory 16 inch aluminum IROC wheels.
From reading through the brake forum I see your known as a brake guru on this board and you have a business. If you could help me figure this out Id appreciate any other feedback you have to offer. If you have a setup available through Flynbye I'd be happy to throw Flynbye some business (I will be upgrading the front brakes as well, this is just my current project).
Thanks in advance!
I still have not made progress on this job (not had much time), but would love to resolve this.
This is a link to the exact rear I have (its the PRG200):
http://www.strangeengineering.net/catalog/pdf/078.pdf The housing ends don't vary from one rear to the next, and I am sure Strange can provide more specifics on the ends if needed.
So I THINK your saying that to avoid having to pull the axles, I would need to use aftermarket backing plates that are horse shoe shaped (or like a "C") that could be bolted to the housing ends without pulling the axles. I'm pretty confident that if I were to use the stock backing plates off of a 4th Gen I'd have to pull the axels since they just have a hole that the axles goes through (no "C" shape like in the picture you gave the link to). Is that all correct?
Do you know if there is a Kit that I could get that would come with the brackets, calipers, rotors, etc? I am not married to the idea of using factory brakes from a forth Gen, I am open to options. In the end it would be very nice, but not mandatory, if I did not have to pull the axles. A requirement is that whatever brakes I go with fit under the factory 16 inch aluminum IROC wheels.
From reading through the brake forum I see your known as a brake guru on this board and you have a business. If you could help me figure this out Id appreciate any other feedback you have to offer. If you have a setup available through Flynbye I'd be happy to throw Flynbye some business (I will be upgrading the front brakes as well, this is just my current project).
Thanks in advance!
Re: Disk Brake Setup for Strange 3rd gen 12 bolt rear
Wanted to clarify one thing I stated in my last post: I didn't mean that I wanted to avoid puling the axles, I meant that I wanted to avoid having to have the bearings and retainers removed from the axles and pressed back on by a shop. I've heard conflicting feedback. I thought that if I go with the backing plates & brake setup for a forth gen I may be able to just enlarge the center hole in the backing plate enough to fit over the bearing and retainer so I could just pull the axle, slip the parts over, then put the axles back in, never messing with the bearing on the axle. I may just have to tear it down and try for myself, but was looking to get feedback from anyone that has tackled this same job before. I'd hate to have to knock off the bearings and retainers and get new ones and have to get them pressed back on when this thing is brand new...
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