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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:25 PM
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Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Ok gang, I have bought two sets of pads for ‘88 GTA rear discs from Power Stop and Oreilys and neither worked too thick.

old rotor turned 25.10mm new rotor 26.60mm

distance between pads 20.93mm Oreilys part number MKD202

new pads old caliper 23.20mm gap

any recommended brand that fits?

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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Are you sure the caliper piston is turned all the way in?
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Yes brand new calipers
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

I just got a set of wagners last summer and they were just fine. The caliper can look like the piston is all the way in when they're quarter turn out. It's just enough
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:43 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Ok let’s say they are out, how do you turn them without damaging them?

also note new pads in old calipers are smaller than rotor. Makes me still think pads too big gap 23.20 vs rotor 26.10
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:52 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Bleeder loose then they should spin 'relatively' easily. I used the tip of a pliers in the grooves and turned. Your caliper piston looks like this, correct?

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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Yes that is it!
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:55 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Yeah she’s all the way in
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Hmmmm. What pads did you get?
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

See above I’ve had those O’Reillys in power stop
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:09 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Those parts numbers give me front pads. You're fixing the rears right?
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:11 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Oreilys site says rears
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:19 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

I looked at the listing wrong like a rube.
I'm not sure why there'd be any difference, unless it's a quality control issue.
Like I said, I used wagners last spring, they worked just fine.
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Lol I was driving to Advanced and they are temporarily closed due to lack of employees.
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Maybe they botched the rebuilt calipers? You don't happen to still have the old ones?
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

So you missed that I checked new pads in old calipers and still are too small a gap
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:27 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Originally Posted by hessm70
So you missed that I checked new pads in old calipers and still are too small a gap
I did, I've clearly been up too long today.
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

No worries! I may try to get some Wagners if Advanced is ever open. FFS
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:57 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll measure the thickness of the pads I have. At least to give you something to compare off.
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 05:58 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Great thanks!
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

Well dumbass award goes to me! I was afraid to turn those cylinders as they would not spin as easy as advised but grabbed the channel locks and viola, they moved in enough to get them on.

Apologies for all the French four letter words used against Oreilys and Power Stop! Lol
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 06:40 AM
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Glad it worked out
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 07:30 AM
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Re: Help- pads needed for rear disc ‘88 Trans Am GTA (non-performance package)

I ended experimenting with the old caliper then just decided to go for it!
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