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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 03:33 AM
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Currently I have 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 10.1d's and an older Kenwood 550 or 650 watt amp. It hits kinda hard but i want more. The subs are rated for 300 rms ( i think, rather tired) and 1400 max. What is the best amp to get for these subs? Also can someone post a diagram of how i should have the subs wired in the box, then going to the amp? The subs are 4ohms. The box is a single enclosure with 2 outputs.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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I would keep the amp you got for one of them. Then buy a sony explode 600 for $150, and you will rattle your car to peices.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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yea that sony will do the trick perfects dont pound, they are incredible sq subs tho.. if you're looking for massive spl, you're probably gonna have to change subs, are those kenwood figures max or rms ratings?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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MAX power output 4ohms
Normal 200x2
bridged 600x1

Rated Power Output
Normal 100x2
Rated 300x1
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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look into the jbl bp600.1, $195 from ikesound.com. it puts out around 700 watts rms into a 2 (or 1) ohm load, which matches your subs perfectly.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Amp

Must have Adobe for the amp manual

http://www.infinitysystems.com/caraudio/product.asp?ProdId='KAPPA+PERFECT10%2E1D'&Ser=KPE&Cat=SUB]subs

Could someone please draw up a wiring diagram for the interals of the box wiring? My setup isn't hitting as hard as my cousin and his friend say it should. Perhaps its my Pioneer 4400 headunit that is the problem?

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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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must copy and paste the subs link it wont work for me, perhaps im dumb
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...er=KPE&Cat=SUB

Here ya go.

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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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first off, stay away from sony. they suck, sorry. second, get yourself a JBL amp. i agree with the 600.1
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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According to the link you posted, you have dual 4 ohm subs. That means there are two voice coils each rated at 4 ohms. On your subs, is there one pair of connectors or two? That will really effect the way you wire it.

One of, it not the biggest things that will effect your system is the box for your subs. Is it built specifically for your subs, or is it one of those pre-made ones from best buy?
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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it is a custom made enclosure from a member of these forums
2 connectors per sub
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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You have a few options in wiring, which will mostly be determined by the amp. If the amp is 1 ohm stable, you can wire all the voice coils in parallel. This will allow your amp to put out the most power (since it's the least resistance), so long as it can handle it. Many amps are not 1 ohm stable, meaning if you try and run it at 1 ohm, it will burn up. An amp such as the JBL 600.1 should be one ohm stable. Another option is to run the two voice coils on each speaker in series and then run the subs parallel from the amp. Basically what that would do is give each sub 8 ohm of resistance and then running them in parallel would drop it down to 4 ohms. That would be the best way to do it if you had an amp that wasn't 1 ohm stable.

What you need to look at for the amp is power rating RMS and at what ohms that is. Many amps give there power ratings into a 2 ohm load. That means that if your speakers are a total of 4 ohms, it will put out less and if they are 1 ohm, it will put out more. If your current amp is rated at ~600 watts RMS at 4 ohms, and that's how your subs are wired, then changing amps won't give you the difference you're looking for. If, however, your amp is rated ~600 @ 2 ohms, and it's one ohm stable, then changing the wiring will help make them louder.

I hope that makes sense. Just remember that you always want to use the RMS rating, not the max output.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:57 AM
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finally got my college check now i have about $1500 to spend

What amp should i get now?
Should i get Volfenhag off ebay or a JBL 600.1 or a 1200.1?
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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the JBL1200.1 will probably be more than you need to push your subs the way you want them, unless of course you'd like to power those infinitys to their full potential....if you're just looking for more, i'd get the 600.1. I use the JBL1200 and i can vouch for the performance of JBL amps. A+

- Andy
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Kicker KX600.1
Lots of power.
4 ohm 300 x 1
2 ohm 600 x 1

MTX Thunder 8100D
Even more power.
Power 12.5 VDC
2 Ohm Load 1000 w x 1
4 Ohm Load 500 w x 1
Power 14.4 VDC
2 Ohm Load 1500 w x 1
4 Ohm Load 850 w x1
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by jesse23
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What does ttt mean? I see it alot, but I never know what it means.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by DISTURBthePEACE
What does ttt mean? I see it alot, but I never know what it means.
To The Top....it's just a way of getting a thread to the top of the list, to get more interest and stop it dying.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by DISTURBthePEACE
What does ttt mean? I see it alot, but I never know what it means.
to the top, sometimes people will also just put the word 'bump'. It's just so that the thread goes back to the top of the list in hopes that more people will see it and reply.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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Thanx alot! that has been bugging me forever but i never got around to asking what it meant.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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last replies b4 i buy anything!
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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:hail: <img src="http://www.ikesound.com/images/products/jbl/regular/186.jpg">:hail:
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 02:47 AM
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To give you an idea of the potential of the 600.1, my parents come and tell me to turn it down because they don't want it to disturb the neighbors down the street. So what, you say, well...this has happend a few times lately while they were in the middle of remodeling the kitchen. So if it can be heard over hammers and power tools etc., (and keep in mind I'm running 2 10" at 4 ohms total. The 600.1 is considered to be 1 ohm stable!) in a sealed house from my sealed car, well, you get the idea.

Edit: Oh I forgot, all this happened while I had my second amp off. :hail: JBL:hail: O.k., I'm done. Sry, it's getting late and all I can think of now is "more bass, more bass". Goodnite
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Old May 25, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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one last bump now before i order anything?

are my subs 350 per coil or 350 total? cause 350 per coil would be 700 total, and the max of the subs is 1400....
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by jesse23
one last bump now before i order anything?

are my subs 350 per coil or 350 total? cause 350 per coil would be 700 total, and the max of the subs is 1400....
I would think that would be the combined rating of both coils together.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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so which amp am i getting?
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by jesse23
so which amp am i getting?
You want to run 2 4 ohm DVC subs off a single amp bridged?
if so
Find an amp you like that will put out at least 600 watts RMS into a 1 ohm load or 600 watts RMS into a 4 ohm load, depending on how your wire the subs and coils.

Forget about max power ratings.
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