Hey guys,
I bet most of you have never heard of this before, but last year when I took off a door panel in our '98 Suburban, there was a plastic bag (not thin trash bag plastic, 2-3 times thicker, like 3-4 mils?) that sealed around the speaker opening, and covered the rear of the speaker. The reason we build boxes for subs is to create the bass that would hardly be there if they were on a sheet of plywood hanging in the middle of the car, so a bag sealing around where a speaker goes (not subs, chances are it would blow the bag apart) would help create more bass and better sound for the speaker. Anyways, the burb has excellent sound for being factory. Only at high levels of sound do you hear distortion, and the bass is so good that I think you don't need subs, just need to drop better components in place of the factory ones.

The point I'm getting to is that maybe the plastic sealing the speaker is creating a "box", so could this be used in the T/As and Camaros for the rear sails and maybe the fronts, to create more bass? I'm going to try it when I replace the speakers on my T/A. I think it will make a big difference, because there won't be as much air leaking as if the speaker were out in the "open".

Just thought I would post this to get some feedback on my brilliant brainstorming session of the evening.

 

So what would you use? I'm havin' trouble imagining what type of bag you'd need or where to get it.

Everything that comes to mind seems like it'd annoy me if it's close enough to metal.

Thanks,
Scott

 

That plastic "bag" is the rain guard for the back of the speaker. Keeps it from getting wet when the water leaks past the window weather stripping. I dont think it will work that well in third gens because the 6x9 compartment allready has a box specifically designed in the sail panels.

 

A rain guard? Ok, that makes sense. I have "performance sound", and so I would have to make a adapter to stick some 6x9s (or maybe 5 1/4" or 6" components) in the box. I heard you couldn't get any good bass from it because it leaked too much, so I was just thinking of cutting some plastic to fit as a bag in the sail panel area, to seal the air leaks. Maybe get some hefty double stick tape to help hold the plastic against the walls, put your speaker in, and the trim the excess around the speaker. I don't think you would have problems with the plastic vibrating, but who knows.

Scott,
I don't know, but if it worked, then I would use a thin pool liner type plastic (thicker than those black heavy duty garbage bags) that you could pick up at Home Base or some big hardware store.


Edit: I haven't taken apart the sail panel area except for taking the speaker grill out, so I'm not sure if there is a way you can seal the sail panel box with some silicone and put some FatMat/B-Quiet/Peal and stick roofing material in there??

 

yah that plasic is for rain guard but also helps from salty water(winter) and dirt from getting on the speakers. I have a saturn and i replaced the door speakers about 5months later in the winter time they started cuting out...so when i removed the speakers to look at em i found the connectors and wires already had white residue on em and whered makeing good connections so i had to clean em off and tape up everytrhign real good! i never thought of useing plastic but the stock protectors i had to take out cause there wasnt enoght room for the aftermarkets magnet back there.

If you ganna use plastic use the thick stuff like they use to line behind the doorpanels on some cars....you can buy thick stuff like that in hardware stores...dads always had a few rolls here he uses for putting alont the foundation of the house in the winter its nice and thick and its clear. Double sided tape is a good idea too.

 

You could just go buy speaker baffles from your local audio store...they're like 10 bucks a set and they are made to improve speaker sound...they're foam...I have them around my 6x9's and 4x10's...they helped...trust me...

 

What is this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBDW%3AIT&rd=1

Laters,
Scott

 

looks to be an aperiodic membrane, if i'm looking at it correctly. however, its not as simple to setup as they make you think. best not to try and play with one of those just yet....

 

we actually have some of those things kicking around up where i work. lol, havent used one in a while.

 

ummm it looks like an expensive grill to me... maybe a rip like the anti radiaitoin cellphonethings(cells dont make the same cancer radiaiton as we think trust me ive seen it tested) if u havewnt i suggest taking the door panel off. i had to becuz one of the rods for my lock fell of and the outside keypart wouldnt work.. heh the palsinc is fairly thick behind there if u wanna steal some from it.....although i live in FL so the barier isnt so neccesarry as in snow states. if this bad idea works defintile post it becuz i might do it tooo.