anyone that has show quality stereo setups in a thirdgen or pictures of cars with them? preferably something up to date using combination of fiberglass and otherwise....

 

something similar to this idea.

 

holy crap thats phat!

Let me guess, your gonna work on a system now? or just adding to your porno, erm i mean camaro, collection?

 

thats incredible. I wish I had the $ and the motivation to do something like that.

 

getting ready to do something, yes......



as to what i'm not sure, i'm trying to decide what to work with. i've picked up alot of photos using imports and trucks since that's alot more common but i'd like to see some thirdgens mainly for space ideas but also so i don't duplicate anything out there.

 

combination of the above with something like this but in my own color and with a few hydraulic pieces as well as some metal thrown in should work. it's just figuring out how to make it all flow to the edges.

i really like how the above picture retains the stock feel which i too would like to do but i need to make the assembly removable as well..

doesn't anyone have any pictures of this sort of thing???

 

but with a newer twist like this....however i want it a little more cab forward in design and functional in that i want certain areas to move for storage as well as to have a few things be removable for obvious purposes.

 

damm Jef, those pics and that set up are sah-weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
-G
:rockon: :werd:

 

unfortunately you just don't see alot of updated work with thirdgens....someone must have at least a picture of a setup...

 

don't know if this is a member or not but here is some more i found without even looking....am i the only one interested in fiberglass?

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/412034/1

 

part of the problem is that the odd shape of the car makes it tough to do a unique install. Subs in the well, amps in front. It's how it almost always is.

I've been giving a lot of thought to my system. My plan is to hide as much as possible, but do it in a way that integrates and looks stock, rather than just stick it out of sight. I want somebody to be able to walk right past my car and not notice that I have stuff, yet a camaro owner will recognize that it's different. Subtle changes.

Depending on what size drivers you decide on, you can build a fiberglass enclosure to sit behind the plastic panels over the rear quarter panels. You should be able to fit a 10" or at least an 8" on each side, with minimal impact to the interior space. That gives you the entire rear well to build a nice looking amp rack that can still be hidden. That still leaves a lot of trunk space.

There are plenty of 10" subs on the market that will give you plenty of SPL while still maintaining superb sound quality. There are even a few 8" subs out there that can be very impressive. I'm going to be working with some 8" Tangbands in my girlfriend's car soon. I'm hoping for at least 130dB from a pair of them.

Anyway... on to that link you posted. His trunk looks ok, but his dash board is a cluster f**k. Too busy, and too square.

I never finished installing what I've got out back, and I'm already ready to rip it out, but here are a couple pics of my dash & kick panels. I've got new pics that I took after I cleaned up the dash, but I haven't uploaded them yet. I've still got to make a new trim ring for the DVD player out of OEM dash material, as well as build a cover out of the stock vents.






It's obviously not stock, but if you didn't know the interior of a Camaro very well, you'd never realize it.

 

Jim85IROC that is the sickest thing I have ever seen!! and I mean that in a good way!

Being a programmer myself, I have often thought about ripping apart a laptop, and mounting the screen somewhere nice on the dash such as you have done with your (Sony?) screen, and then fabbing a set of power mirror buttons to use as the input device to my own custom media software (similar idea to Windows XP media center edition)

 

Rather than ripping apart a lap top, you can get a rather high-speed pentium motherboard complete with mini hard drive, ram, video card, sound card, blah blah blah, for about $3-400. Best of all, it's about the size of a 3x5 (or is it 5x7) index card. It's got everything you need to run a car PC system, completely self contained.

I took some new pics over the weekend, but they all have sun glare and look like hell. If I ever get time, I'll snap some good pics and upload them.

 

looks good, yes the site i referenced was just that. showing alternative ideas. it's way to common to see carpeted boxes in the rear well and the basic amp rack up above the gas tank. since my air ride equipment fills the well i need to move things elsewhere and without the rear seats i have plenty of room to work back there too.....


just looking for ideas, was hoping there were some more people out there with something but i've been looking for awhile with hardly any luck.

 

Another idea that I've toyed with is to put the subs in the 6x9 locations. Rear fill ruins your soundstage anyway, so in my opinion (and that of most competitiors), rear fill isn't useful.

I've seen 10s massaged into the 6x9 location, and I know from personal experience that 8s are a piece of cake. It would take some good fiberglass work to get an enclosure that extended toward the back of the car above the rear wheel wells, but it certainly wouldn't be impossible.

There are some high excursion 8s (tangband W8-740s & RE8s come to mind) that would provide plenty of bass output and sound very good. The 8w7 from JL is probably out of the question because of it's depth.

Doing something where the back seats used to live is always an option, but I always found that to be a bit played out. I've never seen an f-body with a system there that impressed me.

Using the center area of the car does give you the luxury of being able to get as wild as you want with the enclosure, but I think that it will require some careful tuning of the sub system. The more I learn about sub placement, the more I begin to realize that using the center of the car can result in phase cancellation at lower frequencies than I had realized. I think this explains why my experiments with sub placement in thirdgens has always shown poor output from the center of the car.

 

true and all valid points. however for the most part as i want it to sound good i'm not going for max spl...

 

The phase cancellation will be as much of a concern with SQ as it will with SPL. At the frequencies where you get cancellation, you're going to have a huge dip in your sound that will be very tough to equalize out. Minimizing this problem in the first place will make final tuning much easier. The fact that you're not after high SPL will make sub selection easier though, because it will give you the luxury of staying with small subs.

For example... I'm about to build a system for my girlfriend that uses 2 8" Tangband subs. Since she listens to pop music more than anything else, I've decided to build a ported enclosure for extra output in the 30-60hz range. Even ported, the enclosure is only going to be .5 cubic feet per sub. BUT... since I'm tuning it to around 35hz, my port length is going to be fairly massive. In a sealed enclosure these subs work well in .25 cubic feet. Combined with the cabin gain of the f-body interior, this should give a pretty flat response down to a very low frequency.

Resonant Engineering's RE8s have a great reputation for sound quality (as do the Tangbands), have a respectable x-max, and aren't very deep (the Tangbands have a massive magnet structure and are deeper than many 10s). This would be a good sub if you decided to use the sail panels. Either the Tangband or the RE would work well all the way in the back of the car with a fiberglass enclosure underneath the stock plastic.

Again... I'm just trying to throw some ideas your way. If you want to have a more specific discussion or have questions, feel free to AOL IM me at Jim85IROC.

 

and i appreciate it!



i'm going to be using 3 10" jlw6 and two ppi amps that i will use to power them and my boston/mb quart components.

 

I have my stuff in box in the spare tire well. I got the idea from jprovest. Amp in the well. I put a carpet borad over the top so its all hiden.

 

sounds nice but that wouldn't be considered a show setup....i want people to see the equipment.

 

Remove the board and take off the panel and then its seen.

 

OMG, did that dude spray paint Image Dynamic subs?

 

Looks like a light reflection to me.

 

Jim, how much are those tangband subs?

 

$32.50 each.

 

how about this?

this is what inspired me to do my fiberglass box inwhich holds 3 10's.

that 4th gen red camaro pic you got there, only gives me more ideas.




here is the link if u want to check out his site

4 12" audiobahns in a 91 camaro

 

Those are all sweet setups, I am planing on doing sort of the same ideas, with the box. I plan on molding the box into where the spare tire cover would be, and fit that area for a P3 12" fosgate sub, saving room for fuel cell, optima, amps, rollcage

I already moved the bottle to the trainy tunnel...

 

yeah that's nice but all too common. i don't want any speakers further back then the rear axle itself. it's too common to see speakers over the rear of an f-body like that.

 

Kandied, do you already have your speakers?? If not let me know. I have some i would be willing to sell. 3 JL 13 W7's in fiberglass box, im sure you wouldnt use the box being it was made for a truck. Then i have a few amps w/it. Right now its at my friend brandons house so i cant remember the exact specs on em...lol

 

what is a 13 w7? i know what the w7's are but i've never seen a speaker in 13" dia.

 

http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/13w7.html

 

so where are you going to put it then? take out the back seat and do a custom mould set up like you have in that red 4th gen picture. but where the backseat is, paint it the same color as your car, there ya go


cheers

blake

 

The 13 is considered the best sounding driver out of the bunch.

 

yah exactly...and that would be good for show lol, most unique!!

 

hey ghetto how much are will to part with them for?

 

interesting...never seen that size before then again i don't look at the audio parts as much as i use to. what are we asking? pm me with what your asking....i'm not sure if i have a use for it unless the price is right like everything but you never know.

thanks for all the suggestions everyone.

 

Build the carputer like Jim described and get one of these.

How small of an area can u fit one of those setups in??? The only good place i can really think of would be behind the big plastic quarter panel pieces in the hatch.

 

That pic of the red fiberglass enclosure in the rear of the 4th gen is very very close to what I will be doing in my Z, just different configurations of components. I will somehow fit 2 JL 12w6 v2's, 4 amps, a cap, and the battery. hahahaha. Not going to begin this project until my 4th gen interior swap is complete, and I will be keeping the rear seats.

 

Kandied, take a look at this.

http://www.fbodyaudio.com/gallery/djsexay2

I just came across it a couple minutes ago. To me, this is the perfect combination of what you want to achieve and being able to get the bes sound quality. You utilize the area behind the front seats, you get plenty of eye candy for shows, and you still get to put the subs at the back where they'll be most effective.

Best of all, you still have a little storage space. The position of the subs is what I was trying to explain earlier, but he took it a bit further.

 

i have a idea..

what about mounting the subs below the sail panels... replacing that whole lower seatbelt/armrest panel with your custom fiberglass sub box.

you can then build a fiberglass/smoked plexiglass amp holder/display anywhere in the middle.

 

I have got something like that in the works. I am planning to install my whole system behind the front seats. The rear seats were removed when my cage was installed. I want to keep storage available so I have eliminated the idea of installing a box in the cargo area.

The box will be fiberglass, vinyl and plexi. We are about 10% of the way there right now. Just finished gutting the car out and got the entire interior dynamatted.

New Carpeting recently arrived and box construction is soon to begin.

I will be running an old school setup. 2 PPI Pro 10" Flat Piston Subs and 2 PPI Art Series Pro Mos amps. A 425 and a 450. The amps will be mounted between the subs over the center hump area. It should come out nice. I am planning to take some progress pictures throughout the install.

Now planning lots of changes to the interior.. It's expensive to do it right so I am moving at a steady patient pace.

 

no reasonable offer will be refused...trying to think of an exact price right now...just started to put em up, havent really thought about it. Just made the decision bout 2 days ago. If i parted it what would u be looking for....

Kandied. I will PM you as soon as i figure it out...they sound good man. Blew the hatch off my friends mustang going down the road...you know the window in it..just popped it off the seals and bye bye

 

yeah i ran across that over the winter jim. i think it's a very nice setup and the more i have been looking into it the ideas are much more feasible going that route. unfortunately i just don't have a need to run that many amps. suppose i need to find a use huh?

 

call me if you need help

 

My work in progress.....

underneath the subs is a modified Alpine V12 powering the subs and custom components through out the car... notice there are no wires. Still needs some more sanding though. Each sub has 1cf of air space with 50% fiberfill.

 

not bad...little closer to what i was talking about. if i didn't have the air ride accessories i'd probably go ahead and work with the rear section that way.

 

I went back and read your earlier posts. Are you planning to install the setup in the back seat? If you are I would glass all the stuff into a waterfall set up. You could place the two subs to the sides of the back seat where the sail panels arebut down low and face them inward and forward then put the amps in the middle in a vertical orintation underneath some acrylic. That would look very clean. I wish I could draw what im thinking of but I suck with MS paint.

 

This might not be exactly what you are looking for but I choose not to do the rear hatch setup because of the fact that they are becoming more and more similar and in my opinion just boring.Im working on putting 8 pioneer baby spl 12's in the rear seats in a ported fibreglass box.To me its different than most cars i see,show quality, its loud but very clear.Im going to be using all pioneer equip,2 sets of prs 6.5 components in the front,4 d500 amps, a 4 ch amp and a red top battery in the front and back.The closest pic I have to this is in an older show car we have in a 1980 cutlass supreme with ttops hitting 155db.

 

helps if i post the pic

 

Helps if i post the pic