Reccomendations for a Carb
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Car: 1989 Formula 350
Engine: Stealth Rammed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 bolt
Reccomendations for a Carb
ok guys ive talked to a numer of my friend and im hearing everythig from a qJet to a demon 750 . i wanna know what you guys think.
Heres the stats (what i know ) for the motor
350 .30 over
270 duration cam
stock 882 casting heads with some kinda valve work
edelbrock performer RPM intake
Edelbrock 600 CFM elec choke carb
TRW Forged pistons and forged rods
CR ~9.7:1
the car has gone 14.3 with te current carb on it. i know i can get it lower if i learn how to drive it, but i think the carb is killin it up top, and i think it also needs to be rebuilt. But im not SBC or Carb expert. This is a daily driver during the summer so keepin it in double digits for gas milage would be a plus. SO somethgin that would be decent on gas but give a big kick in the *** when i hit the thottle. im open to any and all sugestions cept for FI right now.
Heres the stats (what i know ) for the motor
350 .30 over
270 duration cam
stock 882 casting heads with some kinda valve work
edelbrock performer RPM intake
Edelbrock 600 CFM elec choke carb
TRW Forged pistons and forged rods
CR ~9.7:1
the car has gone 14.3 with te current carb on it. i know i can get it lower if i learn how to drive it, but i think the carb is killin it up top, and i think it also needs to be rebuilt. But im not SBC or Carb expert. This is a daily driver during the summer so keepin it in double digits for gas milage would be a plus. SO somethgin that would be decent on gas but give a big kick in the *** when i hit the thottle. im open to any and all sugestions cept for FI right now.
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Car: 1988 Camaro
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You need to figure out what kinda horsepower you are pushing, that is the best way to figure out what carb you nee i think the recomend the 650/670 up to about 300/350 hp, go with one of the good out of the box carbs less tuning for you i.e Road demon, Edelbrock and so on. Hope this helps!!
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Re: Reccomendations for a Carb
Originally posted by Crovax
stock 882 casting heads with some kinda valve work
...
Edelbrock 600 CFM elec choke carb
stock 882 casting heads with some kinda valve work
...
Edelbrock 600 CFM elec choke carb
somethgin that would be decent on gas but give a big kick in the *** when i hit the thottle.
Therefore, with the Edelbrock, you've got a good combo.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
I was referring to the 600 CFM vs. the proposed 750 CFM. Guess it didn't come out right.
As is often the case, improvement is expected with a carb change, when it isn't the carb that's holding it back.
As is often the case, improvement is expected with a carb change, when it isn't the carb that's holding it back.
Last edited by five7kid; Nov 1, 2004 at 06:20 PM.
was referring to the 600 CFM vs. the proposed 750 CFM. Guess it didn't come out right.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
I calculated the requirement for a 355 & 600 CFM on another thread. With 100% VE, a 600 will handle a 355 to 5800 RPMs.
However, the 882's won't flow enough to use all of the 600 CFMs at that RPM level.
However, the 882's won't flow enough to use all of the 600 CFMs at that RPM level.
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Car: 1989 GTA Nighthawk
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Formulas are useful for learning what should work, not what does work. Barry Grant did an interview a couple of years ago and listed what carb he KNOWS works best and they were all larger than the calculated size because there is much more to it than CID, RPM and VE.
You don't have to believe me, that's just the way it is, I know from years of drag racing experience backed up by probably the most knowledgable person you can find on carbs.
You don't have to believe me, that's just the way it is, I know from years of drag racing experience backed up by probably the most knowledgable person you can find on carbs.
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From: The "D"
Car: A Portly 85 Z28
Engine: 4.530 X 4.250 BBC
Transmission: under rated for this application
Axle/Gears: also under rated
We edelbrock guys are like the bastard children of all Carb people.
.......you forgot "red headed step child"
With a dual plane intake "over carbing" would not hurt performance, as 5.7 said, the heads are the bottle neck, the carb wouldn`t be my 1st worry. The edelbrock is a decent carb but holley based carbs are in my opinion easier to tune and parts are easier to obtain, I think autozone even has holley parts. I don`t see a lot of cars at the strip using carter based carbs, at least none that are crazy fast. I`d stick with the eldey and get some heads, but if gotta get a carb I would suggest the holley 4150 vacuam 600 or the demon 625VS, either would be more than enough
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
With a manual tranny, and/or regular drag racing use, a double pumper would be the better choice.
A 350 with a dual plane intake can easily handle 700-750 CFM.
FWIW, I am fully aware of the difference between theoretical formulas and real world experience. I happen to have found the Holley recommendations very good for "little guy" real world results. I don't recall seeing the BG interview, but I know they are heavy into maxed out racing packages - not exactly what we're dealing with here.
A 350 with a dual plane intake can easily handle 700-750 CFM.
FWIW, I am fully aware of the difference between theoretical formulas and real world experience. I happen to have found the Holley recommendations very good for "little guy" real world results. I don't recall seeing the BG interview, but I know they are heavy into maxed out racing packages - not exactly what we're dealing with here.
The edelbrock is a decent carb but holley based carbs are in my opinion easier to tune
I would leave it at, the edelbrock will perform as well as any vacuum secondary carb, but if you need mechanical secondary performance, get the holley.
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