some quick pics of my 85 h.o.
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From: laval, quebec
Car: 85 black on red t-top t/a
Engine: 305 h.o. l69
Transmission: t-5
Axle/Gears: borg w/ discs 3.70 posi
some quick pics of my 85 h.o.
thx again LAFireboyd & five7kid i appreciated to info especilay the fact that i have 3.70 gears in the rear is something i dint expect, well not over 3.23 anyway, so here are a few pics and yes it is an l69 8vin digit is a G
pics are shitty but i took them right of the tow truck and right before i shoved it into my tempo for winter, here in laval quebec its pretty cold so i dint want to take many pics, fingers got numb



my car original was white with a tope interior 5speed 305 h.o. with a borg rear t-top, the guy before me painted is black and did a descent job and he swaped a red interior from he said a gta, i also have the black 15 snow flake mags from a gta i could only upload 3 pics hope u like i will upload some more when i ever i can ...
pics are shitty but i took them right of the tow truck and right before i shoved it into my tempo for winter, here in laval quebec its pretty cold so i dint want to take many pics, fingers got numb



my car original was white with a tope interior 5speed 305 h.o. with a borg rear t-top, the guy before me painted is black and did a descent job and he swaped a red interior from he said a gta, i also have the black 15 snow flake mags from a gta i could only upload 3 pics hope u like i will upload some more when i ever i can ...
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Pretty cool!
That's one of the best looking dual snorkel air cleaners I've seen in awhile.
That's one of the best looking dual snorkel air cleaners I've seen in awhile.
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From: laval, quebec
Car: 85 black on red t-top t/a
Engine: 305 h.o. l69
Transmission: t-5
Axle/Gears: borg w/ discs 3.70 posi
in all honesty the snorkel is the nicest thing in my engine bay, it looks redone because its in great condition almost like its brand new
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From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Looks like a really good project, I'm a big fan of the L69 engines (of course, I'm biased
)... they weren't any faster than the TPI cars, they were about the same, but those engines just loved to rev!
)... they weren't any faster than the TPI cars, they were about the same, but those engines just loved to rev! Joined: Jan 2004
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From: Las Vegas
Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt/3.45
I've noticed that a lot of L69s found their way to Canada. It sure looks frosty up there! Glad I live in SoCal. 
The pic I posted in the other thread was of a 3.70 9-bolt disc that I pulled from a 1985 TA/L69/5-speed in a junkyard last fall. '83 and '84 L69 Z28s and TAs got 3.73 10-bolts, but '85 and '86 L69 TAs got 3.70 9-bolts. 3.70 was only used those two years, so there weren't/aren't a lot of them.
Those dual-snorkle air cleaners are hard to find too. I have one in good shape that I found a couple of days ago. I hated to see such a treasure fall into non-thirdgen hands. At least, now it can find someone who'll appreciate it.
But about your interior... perhaps the previous owner said it's from a TA. Because unless GTAs could be had with 'luxury' seats instead of GTA Ultima seats, and I don't think they could, your interior is pretty typical of a two-tone '85/'86 TA interior, not that there's anything wrong with that. That two-tone color scheme is a very nice choice for a black car. Gotta love black!
Also, if your wheels are 15", they're not from a GTA either, sorry. GTAs had 16" wheels. But there was a 15" 'Snowflake' wheel for the Firebird.
So, at least, the changes made to your car were well thought out because they're all factory Firebird stuff. I hope you get an early spring so you can start enjoying your new car. It looks like a good one!

The pic I posted in the other thread was of a 3.70 9-bolt disc that I pulled from a 1985 TA/L69/5-speed in a junkyard last fall. '83 and '84 L69 Z28s and TAs got 3.73 10-bolts, but '85 and '86 L69 TAs got 3.70 9-bolts. 3.70 was only used those two years, so there weren't/aren't a lot of them.
Those dual-snorkle air cleaners are hard to find too. I have one in good shape that I found a couple of days ago. I hated to see such a treasure fall into non-thirdgen hands. At least, now it can find someone who'll appreciate it.
But about your interior... perhaps the previous owner said it's from a TA. Because unless GTAs could be had with 'luxury' seats instead of GTA Ultima seats, and I don't think they could, your interior is pretty typical of a two-tone '85/'86 TA interior, not that there's anything wrong with that. That two-tone color scheme is a very nice choice for a black car. Gotta love black!
Also, if your wheels are 15", they're not from a GTA either, sorry. GTAs had 16" wheels. But there was a 15" 'Snowflake' wheel for the Firebird.
So, at least, the changes made to your car were well thought out because they're all factory Firebird stuff. I hope you get an early spring so you can start enjoying your new car. It looks like a good one!
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From: laval, quebec
Car: 85 black on red t-top t/a
Engine: 305 h.o. l69
Transmission: t-5
Axle/Gears: borg w/ discs 3.70 posi
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt/3.45
I hate getting too technical, but if I don't do it, someone else will, right? The snowflake wheel is something completely different than both of those. The GTA wheels are typically called crosslace or sometimes called diamond spoke. And your black ones do look like 16" GTA wheels.
But in your first post you'd said they were 15", so maybe you simply typo'd and meant 16", or you meant the other ones were 15"... or I misread. They'll look great on your car.
But in your first post you'd said they were 15", so maybe you simply typo'd and meant 16", or you meant the other ones were 15"... or I misread. They'll look great on your car.
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From: laval, quebec
Car: 85 black on red t-top t/a
Engine: 305 h.o. l69
Transmission: t-5
Axle/Gears: borg w/ discs 3.70 posi
mag confusion but either way they rock
i just double checked and the black mags with the silver polish are 15", ive seen the gold mags on the gta's there nice and i've seen the black ones on the gta's, i guess there not original, the previous owner said he got them from a scrap gta, i know the black mags came w/ the grand national if they are the same, either way your right about them looking good on the car i have some pics with t/a with those mags and they look great, 15" maybe small but with a nice large tire they will look great
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt/3.45
Ok, that explains it... they came from a Grand National. So yes, they're 15". But they do look a lot like the GTA wheels.
The largest correct(stock) size 15" tire used on these cars was 235/60-15. That's prolly the size that came on that car from the factory.
The largest correct(stock) size 15" tire used on these cars was 235/60-15. That's prolly the size that came on that car from the factory.
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