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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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84l69ta or azmopar_935@hotmail doesnt live up to his word

like the tile says,the man doesnt live up to his word. long story short we had a disagreement on an item he sold me, i filed a complaint ,we agreed i drop the complaint and he would send out a money order for a partial refund.well that was weeks ago ,still no money order and now hes gone dead quiet onthe emails but im sure he has some kind of excuse or maybe he just doesnt care and will change his screen name and email address like everyone around here does when they get a bad rep.fyi boys....
Old Aug 29, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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I actually mailed the money order out to you when I said I did. Now as I told you, peoples descriptions can be very different. For AZ standards, that pair of tail lights would be considered to be very good condition. Keep in mind, where youre at, you dont have 115-120* temperatures, and scorching hot sun beating on all the plastic parts of your car. It was not my job to completely detail the tail light assemblies before I shipped them. For future reference, try asking for pics of a part before you buy something if its such an issue for you. Like I said, I dont have time to completely detail every part I remove from a car. Most of the time, I remove it, box it up, and send it out. I have been selling parts and cars for many years on this site, and never had a problem until you came along.
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i didnt post this to be a contest but for starters :where the f is this money order???show me a receipt for it and proof it was even cashed by someone because if you sent it it never arrived here and i will go to my grave with that.
2,i didnt expect them to be cleaned and all but dont describe somethign as "a beautiful set" when they clearly werent.
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Actually it seems that you have quite a few people you have rubbed wrong....
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Hmmm, actually there isnt. There was a misunderstanding with one other buyer....but this guy is B.S. Lies through his teeth. How do you like that?
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go f yourself if you are calling me a liar.prove me wrong,where is the f'ing money order you claim to have sent out????show a receipt?something ,because you cant because you never sent anything out .sure youll make up some excuse but thats all it is and the folk here will see thru it.hell i even offered to refund the profits i made to you and you insist on calling me a liar???wheres any proof of a money ordeR???let me guess you dont have a rceipt,you threw it out?they didnt give you one,yada yada yada....hoss fess up,you lied,you went back on your word.folk here will respect you more if you just man up and admit it instead of bs'ing more and more.
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Hmmm. a little testy are we? LOL!!! Whatever hoss. Quit your crying, you have absolutely no case. You would have something if I NEVER mailed the lights to you. But just because youre a crybaby and you and I have different standards as to what is good condition and what isnt, doesnt give you the right to sit there and cry like a sissy. Ill give you a bit of advice...the next time you buy something off the internet, try to use your brain like a normal person and ask for pictures. There is nothing wrong with the parts you bought. Oh no, thats right, they were covered in dust. Holy ****! That means you had to clean them?! I told you already *******, I dont find it necessary to detail every part I sell. What else ya got?
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And by the way, I never said they were "beautiful".
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why do i bother dealing with this level of intelligence..i know why im trying to show the members here to avoid you like the aids virus.......clearly you skirted the entire issue of the so called money order you claimed to mailed.the members clearly see that was a big lie.keep digging your grave deeper and deeper,or just go be "sneaky"and change your email address and screen name and strat ripping folk off that way since your name is about used up now.
true,shame on me for not asking for pictures but when a memebr here claims and item is "a beautiful set" i take him for his word and dont require pictures since i USE to trust the members here. also dusty they were but you forgot to mention the cracks and how both lense were clearly warpped.thats not the issue,i got burned,period.the issue was you made a deal for a partial refund which never came yet you claim you sent it when you clearly didnt.period.
and dont be sending threatening emails about your local contacts with "the police department"............they can go pound sand.....
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Not very good sentence structure there...son. And where did I say they were "beautiful"?
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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ok man up then..how did you describe them????????post your messages to me?????? post your descriptions of them and then ill post pictures of the actual lights and let the members decide if your description was right.you wont..i seen guys like you before.
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I have a decent set for sale. Good for a driver. $70.00 for the pair. Located in Glendale, AZ.

Taken straight from your post.
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forget that..man up to the issue at hand..........1,did you or did you not offer to send a money order
2,where is it
3,admit you lied when u said u sent it out
4,otherwise show proof..thats the issues here..
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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typical,calle don the carpet and he runs for the hills...nothing to say now.....mods i think the point about this seller has been made.
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1: Never offered to send a money order
2: I had to agree to it for it to exist. So "where is it?" In your imagination
3. I never lied
4. My proof is right here, in this reply.

I think that should answer your questions in the order they were asked. And if im such a liar, check the post you had about "Grid taillights needed"

LIAR!
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Point(s) being made here is(are) very simple...

1. ALWAYS ask for pics. Unless you have already seen the item(s) in person. In which case I doubt you would be looking in the classifieds.

2. Avoid this seller. This is the second post about him in a very short time, and in both he has copped major attitudes. In both he has come in attacking the poster.

3. Keep any messages from the transaction in case things do go south and a promise is made and then ignored. That way you can actually go and file complaints with not only Fed, State and Local Fraud Depts, but also the owners/moderators of this site.
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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v6 amen...........i admit i got burned and my fault for trusting a memeber here but my only reason for posting was after seeing another negative complaint i felt i owed it to the other members to make them aware of the situation.
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84 i think you made it clear its time to pack up and leave.your attitude is not welcomed here and you flat out lie. now you are claiming to have never agreed to send a money order yet in this very tread your very first response was that you sent out the money order ????????????????? oooooooopppppppps i guess you forgot to go back and read what you posted...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm now how do you finagle your way out of this one???? dont even bother,the members here know better and have no use for lies and deceipt.enjoy
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omfg 84...how foolish do you think we are...do you not think when you act??????? sure you went back and quoted your "description" of the tailights in my previous post but i hate to break the news to you when you go back and EDIT a tread it says right on there when it was last edited!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hello mcfly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gee low and behold the specific tread was edited the same day .hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what are the odds...go home dude and leave us alone.
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here,i copied your orginal post here so you dont feel the need to go back and "edit" this one......

.I actually mailed the money order out to you when I said I did. Now as I told you, peoples descriptions can be very different. For AZ standards, that pair of tail lights would be considered to be very good condition. Keep in mind, where youre at, you dont have 115-120* temperatures, and scorching hot sun beating on all the plastic parts of your car. It was not my job to completely detail the tail light assemblies before I shipped them. For future reference, try asking for pics of a part before you buy something if its such an issue for you. Like I said, I dont have time to completely detail every part I remove from a car. Most of the time, I remove it, box it up, and send it out. I have been selling parts and cars for many years on this site, and never had a problem until you came along.
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Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi I actually mailed the money order out to you when I said I did. Now as I told you, peoples descriptions can be very different. For AZ standards, that pair of tail lights would be considered to be very good condition. Keep in mind, where youre at, you dont have 115-120* temperatures, and scorching hot sun beating on all the plastic parts of your car. It was not my job to completely detail the tail light assemblies before I shipped them. For future reference, try asking for pics of a part before you buy something if its such an issue for you. Like I said, I dont have time to completely detail every part I remove from a car. Most of the time, I remove it, box it up, and send it out. I have been selling parts and cars for many years on this site, and never had a problem until you came along.
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v6 amen...........i admit i got burned and my fault for trusting a memeber here but my only reason for posting was after seeing another negative complaint i felt i owed it to the other members to make them aware of the situation.
I trust people face to face.
Over the net, I do not trust them for anything.
Hell I have even gotten parts that the pics were taken at odd angles and varying light to actually hide defects. Luckily not here Hackbay...
I have also been flat out lied to about parts fitment (again not here but Hackbay)...

I admit I have bought things from people on this site, and many people here have bought things from me and for the most part things go well. If not we both try to come up with a deal to settle anything that is felt is or has been wronged.
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come on..wheres your smart alleck response now? you going to go back and "edit" your past responses? what lie you going to fabricate now...on second thought forget it ,the point was made.
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LOL! Yeah punk, what point was that? Those posts are doctored. Ive been here a hell of a lot longer than you, and Ive never had a complaint. Im not going anywhere. Deal with it, greaseball.
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I actually mailed the money order out to you when I said I did. Now as I told you, peoples descriptions can be very different. For AZ standards, that pair of tail lights would be considered to be very good condition. Keep in mind, where youre at, you dont have 115-120* temperatures, and scorching hot sun beating on all the plastic parts of your car. It was not my job to completely detail the tail light assemblies before I shipped them. For future reference, try asking for pics of a part before you buy something if its such an issue for you. Like I said, I dont have time to completely detail every part I remove from a car. Most of the time, I remove it, box it up, and send it out. I have been selling parts and cars for many years on this site, and never had a problem until you came along.
This above is a direct quote from your post.

It cannot be doctored, if you feel it has, you need to contact the Admin of the board so they can put a screw to the Moderator who doctored it.

I agree with someones above advice, get a pic and ask questions.

But by no ones standards "decent" is considered warped and cracked. I don't care if youre from Arizona or Alaska, you should have divulged that information.

Your back talking and back peddeling have truly shown you're out for the buck, regardless of the situation.

You screwed the guy, plain and simple.

Anyone reading this post knows it. Anyone who will read this post will know it as well.
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LOL! Yeah punk, what point was that? Those posts are doctored. Ive been here a hell of a lot longer than you, and Ive never had a complaint. Im not going anywhere. Deal with it, greaseball.
The point is you are a scam artist plain and simple.
This is the second thread in a very short period of time about people posting on how you did them wrong.

The posts have not been doctored, they are your words plain and simple. You lied several times here. That has been proven.

I do not care how long you have been a member here on these boards, that does not give you the right to rip people off PERIOD.

Yes you have had complaints, that is another lie. And you became just as childish, threatening and abusive in that thread as well.

I wish you would go away it would do these boards better. It would be one less board where you could rip people off. And I honestly do not think that the buyer is the greaseball, you are.

And yes both of these threads need to be reported to moderators to see what can be done about getting you kicked, or put on probation. If for nothing else making threatening comments towards other members.
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v6 and mike well said..................couldnt have said it better myself

funny the post that was doctored or edited is the one where he changed the description of the taillights to only "decent",but thats not my issue.i admit i got burned ,shame on me.i was pointing out he promised a refund which i never got and by his own admisiion in this UNDOCTORED tread he claims to have sent it then in the same UNDOCTORED tread he claims he never agreed to send one.enough said i think.thanks for the support v6 and mike because like u said we dont need guys like this here.
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LOL!!!! Greaseball!
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Nice reply ?Can you answer the question about the money order 84L69TA?
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One of your post says you sent the money order and in another post you say you didnt.Which is it??????
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martin,exactly hes talking out both sides of his *** so if you were a betting man what would u place your money on?????? kind of thought so and he cant answer your question because he lied and painted himself into a corner to which he feels the only way out is to avoid it all together and just shout insults hoping you guys will forget it and trust him.like i said i think his actions and words here speak for themselves.
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martin dont forget one post said he sent the m.o. and another said he didnt send it and when called on the carpet he then tried to claim the post was doctored ...so even if he were to answer your question would you or could u beleive a single word?
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Already answered it bub
actually no, you have not answered it. I will with YOUR OWN posts to clear this up for you...
First on (8-30-2006 at 1:17 AM board time)You claim that you did indeed send it out... (This is the specific exerpt)

Originally Posted by 84L69TA
I actually mailed the money order out to you when I said I did....
Second on (9-7-2006 at 12:14 board time) You say that you never agreed to send it... (I am leaving this complete to make several points later)

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1: Never offered to send a money order
2: I had to agree to it for it to exist. So "where is it?" In your imagination
3. I never lied
4. My proof is right here, in this reply.

I think that should answer your questions in the order they were asked. And if im such a liar, check the post you had about "Grid taillights needed"

LIAR!
Now to use your own words that you should answer questions in the order they were asked... answer this... or in the case of a few I will answer them with your own words.

1. If you never offered the refund why did you say that you sent the money order when "you said you did"?
2. But you did agree to its exsistance, or al least to its promised existance by saying you already sent it to him.
3. You just proved you did. If about nothing else, about the money order that you said yourself that you sent.
4. Your proof of many things is in this reply right here. You proved that you agreed to send a refund money order. You then proved that you lied about (A) sending it (B) went back on your word to send it.
So exactly who is the LIAR here?

Now I am not even going to get into the actual part received as there have been no provided pics, and no provided links to the thread they were asked for in. If there are pics to be provided please post a link to them (or better yet attach them in the thread itself) and then provide a link about the sellers UNEDITED description. If the seller description is edited it will be taken for granted that it was changed to make it seem that they were not as good as you initially said they were. IE calling a bag of dog waste gold, instead of a bag of dog waste.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...tailights.html
The specific thread being discussed. And yes indeed the description of them has been altered.
Last edited by 84L69TA : 09-06-2006 at 08:38 PM. as taken directly from his reply.

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Maybe a moderator should discuss this with him as he seems to be unsure if
he sent a money order or not.Either way he is contradicting himself on here and in turn further showing dishonesty.But i do see he is still listing stuff for sale in other posts.All you need to do is click on his name and it will show this.
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Maybe a moderator should discuss this with him as he seems to be unsure if
he sent a money order or not.Either way he is contradicting himself on here and in turn further showing dishonesty.But i do see he is still listing stuff for sale in other posts.All you need to do is click on his name and it will show this.
already reporting him as I type this...
I have just finished sending all three classifieds moderators PM's about this clown.
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Wow, arent you the little detective
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Wow, arent you the little detective
no, just bringing all your lies out to clear view.

Now that you have nothing to hide behind what are you gonna do?
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I dont hide. And you have been reported for saying youre gonna "beat me down". Yeah, thatll be the day
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 84L69TA
I dont hide. And you have been reported for saying youre gonna "beat me down". Yeah, thatll be the day
when exactly did I say "I" was gong to do that?
"I" never said that "I" was going to do it. I said that that is what "You" needed.

sorry but in both of these threads you have been hiding behind lies and threats. Not doing what you said you would do to fix the problem.
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that was the whole intention...to let folk know how he operates before they start buying stuff.....
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i do have pics and would provide them upon request but my point wasnt the product quality becuase im too blame for not getting pics and i took his word based upon the description he used and btw "decent" wasnt it,i think we all see that now. even if i got pictures from this guy who knows if they would be the actual part,they could be someone elses pics for all i know. my point was he renigged on his word about a partial refund and i think that it has been well documented now that this is indeed true and i wanted folk to know what they might be in for.thats for the support guys.
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by anthony714
i do have pics and would provide them upon request but my point was the product quality becuase im too blame for not getting pics and i took his word based upon the description he used and btw "decent" wasnt it,i think we all see that now. even if i got pictures from this guy who knows if they would be the actual part,they could be someone elses pics for all i know. my point was he renigged on his word about a partial refund and i think that it has been well documented now that this is indeed true and i wanted folk to know what they might be in for.thats for the support guys.
that's what we're here for.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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And by the way, upon closer examination of the pics of the taillights you e-mailed me, I have come to the conclusion that those werent the taillights I sent you.
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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And by the way, upon closer examination of the pics of the taillights you e-mailed me, I have come to the conclusion that those werent the taillights I sent you.


and you expect us to believe that?
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Hang on there Suckhole....was I talking to you? And you will believe it.
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Originally Posted by 84L69TA
Hang on there Suckhole....was I talking to you? And you will believe it.
I will not believe a single thing that you type. EVER

You have more than proven yourself as someone that CANNOT be trusted, and lies to avoid or make an excuse in a situation whenever possible.

So just what gives you the slightest inclination that I will believe anything you say?

That is incase you forgot that I was the one and when through your posts and pointed out your lies TO YOU.

I find it harlarious that you think that your billy bad *** attutide on these internet forums will get people to back down.

Picked on too much in HS? Always made fun of, or does it just make you feel less of a child to act all big and bad on the internet forums?

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by V6sucker

So just what gives you the slightest inclination that I will believe anything you say?

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Because I said so. YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!



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