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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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popballz is a scammer

sold him a MAF on 2-25, he said he had to have it within 3 days to have his car running. i sent it priority mail the next day (he paid with paypal at about 9:00 PM). and he received it 2 days later. he used it for 2 weeks, then cut a screen out of it, he now says it doesn't work and wants his money back. use caution when dealing with him. his name is donald skaar and he is from washington.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ron reece
sold him a MAF on 2-25, he said he had to have it within 3 days to have his car running. i sent it priority mail the next day (he paid with paypal at about 9:00 PM). and he received it 2 days later. he used it for 2 weeks, then cut a screen out of it, he now says it doesn't work and wants his money back. use caution when dealing with him. his name is ****** ***** and he is from washington.
Please edit my name out, that is personal information that no one needs.



My answer to all his questions-
Originally Posted by ron email
it was. i don't know what kind of scam you are trying to pull here-but its not going to work. you used it for 2 weeks, then cut the screen out and tore it up, then you want your money back????? the MAF was in perfect working order, and un-modified, when it was sent. remember-you needed in within 3 days to have your car running? well-- 2 weeks after that you modify it and then want a refund? its not going to happen. i will also be posting a warning on the 3rd gen website about dealing with you
Originally Posted by popballz
Alright, this guy is trying to scam me, he sold me a broken MAF and is now trying to say I broke it.

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MY REPLY

Scam? Are you kidding me? Want me to answer all your questions? Well here you go.
1. I did not use it for two weeks, I put it in, it did not work, I reset the ECM a few times, it still did not work, I took it out.
2. It was so dirty (dirt flakes, not just dust) I brought it up to my local Schucks and guess what they told me? They told me to buy a can of "Mass Air Flow Sensor Cleaner" (picture attached). Guess what else they told me? They said I had to cut off one screen, because otherwise, the dirt flakes would get stuck on the screen and would make it function improperly. Those screens are worthless so I decided to follow what a mechanic told me to do.
3. Tore it up? There was two places that were tore up, the connector ( that you informed me of) and a piece of rubber that was already half way tore off.
4. It is in the same "unmodified" working condition it was in when I received it, like I mentioned before, the auto parts store told me I HAD to remove ONE screen in order to get all the dirt crap out. What else did I modify that would effect the performance of the MAF?? NOTHING. NOTHING I did even came close to effecting the performance of the MAF sensor.
5. I did need it in 3 days in order to make it to a local car club dyno. (http://cascadecrew.org/) it says it right there on the homepage.
6. Once again I DID NOT use it for two weeks, I did not have time to install it, uninstall it, take it up to the auto parts store, clean it,reinstall it, uninstall it, e-mail you and package it up and go all the way to the post office, because I am a FULL TIME student and a FULL TIME worker, I do not even have time to go work on my cars for 10 minutes a day, unless you want me to work out in the dark, in the middle of winter, when I have to wake up early the next morning for school.

I also tested this piece of crap he sold me, there was the 12v line to supply power, a ground, and none of the wires had the .5v-4.7v it should have if it was working at all.

I didn't even get it in for the dyno, my car performed horribly, fuel/air mixture is not that good without a MAF Sensor.



I WOULD Recommend NEVER WORKING WITH THIS GUY, HE SELLS BROKEN PARTS THEN TRYS TO BLAME IT ON YOU.


So who here is a full time student and a full time worker that has to drive a few hours a day to get to school, home, work, home??
In my posting of "I need a MAF sensor," I posted the picture of the MAF cleaner the auto parts store sold me.

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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Just to prove that the MAF sensor was broken and I know what the problem is and I was not trying to scam this guy.

MAFreceit.jpg

So what does he have to say now? Nothing, he needs to refund my money.
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

what do i have to say now?
you received a good working part, chose to destroy it, and now want a refund. aint going to happen
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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cutting one screen is not going to hurt anything, if he cleaned it then it would be in better condition than you sold it to him at,

let the buyer pay return shipping, when you recieve the part back refund his money

problem solved
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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or you know they just did a lame job cleaning it and damaged it more than helped it, but since you do have the slip for the part why did you just not return it? even so im sure if you would have popballz return it to you and he did not beat the hell out of it and I would have shipping insurance on it why not just ask him to have it back like with summit they usually take the part back if it's been within the year, unless I guess you sold it to him for more?

ya my bad thought their was just one involved

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 101btp
or you know they just did a lame job cleaning it and damaged it more than helped it, but since you do have the slip for the part why did you just not return it? even so im sure if you would have popballz return it to you and he did not beat the hell out of it and I would have shipping insurance on it why not just ask him to have it back like with summit they usually take the part back if it's been within the year, unless I guess you sold it to him for more?
That reciept shows popballz bought a new one because the one ron sent did not work, the part sent to popballz was not new
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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That reciept shows popballz bought a new one because the one ron sent did not work, the part sent to popballz was not new
the receipt does not show that. he used mine for 2 weeks, destroyed it, then wants his money back. the receipt only shows he went and bought a new one after he tore mine up.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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these things happen all the time when you buy used , as is parts , it sucks both ways. but what can you do ? thats the risk everyone takes when they buy used parts . now no one can agree who was right or wrong . thats where, as is comes in , if you have no agreement stating that if the part isnt funcional , you would get a refund, there is nothing to be done. even if you did have an agreement you should have sent it back right away and not touched anything. now its too late and nothing can be proven. just gotta take the loss. feel for ya man
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ron reece
the receipt does not show that. he used mine for 2 weeks, destroyed it, then wants his money back. the receipt only shows he went and bought a new one after he tore mine up.
wasnt trying to accuse you of selling a bad part, i was just stating that when popballz recieved your part and installed it, it did not work so he had to buy a new one and that is what the receipt shows, 101btp thought that was your receipt and that you could have just returned it instead of selling it to popballz



Originally Posted by aremy10
these things happen all the time when you buy used , as is parts , it sucks both ways. but what can you do ? thats the risk everyone takes when they buy used parts . now no one can agree who was right or wrong . thats where, as is comes in , if you have no agreement stating that if the part isnt funcional , you would get a refund, there is nothing to be done. even if you did have an agreement you should have sent it back right away and not touched anything. now its too late and nothing can be proven. just gotta take the loss. feel for ya man
i see this point, and agree

there should have been an agreement on a working part(where if it didnt work it would be sent back to seller, and money would be returned in that order)

i guess when popballz found it not to work, instead of doing anything to it he should have recontacted Ron and im sure Ron would have accepted a return at that time(before any cutting or cleaning was preformed)

i still wouldnt call popballz a scammer, or ron a scammer in the case of what popballz is saying

take this as a learning experience popballz,first make an agreement with the seller that if the part does not work when received then you get a refund(and make sure you take pictures of the part when received,and seller, you should mark your parts with your own marking and take pics) if you receive a non working part(again not accusing you ron) contact the seller immediately and ask for a refund, do not try to fix it, just ask for a refund and return it to the seller
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CaveCock
cutting one screen is not going to hurt anything, if he cleaned it then it would be in better condition than you sold it to him at,

let the buyer pay return shipping, when you recieve the part back refund his money

problem solved
I paid to send it back, and now he is keeping my money and the part. But I am the scammer here, right? I told him to send it back, but he still has it.

ok really? If you want to get all technical, the day I installed it, I posted that the error code was still there, follow link to cascadecrew if you do not believe me.

http://cascadecrew.org/phpBB2/viewto...=6929&start=20

Half way down the page.
Originally Posted by popballz
OK, new MAF is in....
it idles good and drives good.
engine light came back on though, with the same code.
Everything seems to act normal though
(I unplugged the battery for a long time)
After driving a car that flooded it self for a month, I looked at any improvement as it "working better". I realized it was probably because my maf was half way sending information, screwing everything up, while when I plugged his in, it sent nothing, like not having a maf which is better then a maf that is acting up.

That was on March 4th. I was extremely busy for the next week, so I could not even look at it.

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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Oh but wait, let me guess how this will turn out..

He is going to keep my money and the part (I sent the part back for a refund that we agreed on). How awesome is that? Now he gets to do it again!
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Oh but wait, let me guess how this will turn out..

He is going to keep my money and the part (I sent the part back for a refund that we agreed on). How awesome is that? Now he gets to do it again!

i dont have time to reread your post on the PM's between you two, but if you have proof he agreed to a refund then he has 1 of 2 options

a. he sends your money back

b. he sends the part back that he is unsatisfied with to give a refund

its gotta be one or the other, there is no, i keep the part and your money no matter what shape the part was returned

its all a part of doing business either way
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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the destroyed part is being sent back to him
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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Did you actually try the maf and verify that it is indeed destroyed? I once stuck an 85 maf on my car and was convinced it was junk, turns out it was just the incorrect part, same thing with V6 mafs. I would be pretty offended if I sent someone a working part and got it back all screwed up, but really I would have to say I would meet them in the middle with a partial refund or something. To many ego's going around right now, it sucks to see this happen on here
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
Did you actually try the maf and verify that it is indeed destroyed? I once stuck an 85 maf on my car and was convinced it was junk, turns out it was just the incorrect part, same thing with V6 mafs. I would be pretty offended if I sent someone a working part and got it back all screwed up, but really I would have to say I would meet them in the middle with a partial refund or something. To many ego's going around right now, it sucks to see this happen on here
Oh I know, It sucks that I wasted $80 on this Broken MAF and then had to go spend like $200 on a NEW one because I don't trust anyone on here anymore.

I'll post pictures on this "destroyed" maf to everyone to see that it is not "destroyed" at all.

AND he was mad it took me two weeks to send it back? its taking him a month to send me back the "destroyed" maf, and yet, I am the one getting screwed out of all the money.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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If you buy something "As Is" than the deal was DONE as soon as he mailed it to you. ( unless it gets "lost" ! ) Anything after that is extra.

Seems like the problem here is that you screwed with it. Had you contacted him back FIRST before listening to some know-nothing behind the counter this probably would have been worked out already. ( counter help tried to sell me LOCK TIGHT for my Head Bolts a couple days ago. ) People modify thier parts all the time - the part you modified was your own,..... or you should not have modified it & should have left it "As Is".

I Buy/Sell stuff here all the time. If I buy something "As Is" I know it's a gamble and that's why I'm paying 1/4 to 1/3 the price of new parts. When I sell stuff "As Is" all obvious defects are noted as well as the working condition of the part. ( IF tested ) Everyone has thier own idea of what something is worth; If you paid $80 for an "As Is" used MAF................ That's what you thought it was worth.

I gotta' side with Ron here. I would have sided with you POP if you had the MAF tested ( takes 2 minutes to check for voltage ) and contacted Ron right way( and ONLY if the deal was for a GOOD part and not an "As Is" part ) but you modified the part and then brought up a problem.

Just my


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Old May 3, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by John in RI
If you buy something "As Is" than the deal was DONE as soon as he mailed it to you. ( unless it gets "lost" ! ) Anything after that is extra.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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the actual price was 50.00, plus 10.00 for shipping. not 80.00 and it took him 33 days to return it-not 2 weeks.
donald, you need to let it go....you bought a working part, broke it and want me to pay for your mistake. something to remember in the future is don't modify or change an item then expect a refund-that doesn't happen anywhere in the business world. try going to wal-mart and buying a long sleeve shirt, cut the sleeves off, then try and return it because its the wrong size--i don't think you would get a refund from there either.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Old May 19, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by John in RI
If you buy something "As Is" than the deal was DONE as soon as he mailed it to you. ( unless it gets "lost" ! ) Anything after that is extra.
He agreed to a refund before I shipped it back.

Originally Posted by ron reece
the actual price was 50.00, plus 10.00 for shipping. not 80.00 and it took him 33 days to return it-not 2 weeks.
donald, you need to let it go.
price of maf, cleaner, shipping was $80.
you said it was two weeks.
Originally Posted by ron reece
he used it for 2 weeks
It would have been one thing if it was "AS IS" this was a "working" part that did not work. Again you are wrong because you said many times that I DESTROYED IT. It was not destroyed at all, the broken plug (that you broke) destroyed it more then a screen.

It took me 2 weeks because I already said I work full time and am passing all my classes in college. It took him a month to send it back to me when all he does is sit on his *** all day.





One last thing, can anyone actually say this is "DESTROYED"??

maf1.jpg
maf.jpg

** NOTICE- I even cut the rear screen out so that is anything made it past the air filter, it would get caught in the screen before entering the maf.

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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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I am not 100% sure, but isn't there supposed to be a wire that runs in the "venturi "? Looks to me like you just have a plastic tube.......
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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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the wire was still in it when he returned. it was also there when i sent it back to him (i also paid for that shipping).

as for me sitting on my azz all day- that is about the only thing you have been right about. i'm retired and i think i earned it. as for you donald, your still just a whining little b*tch.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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well, i say a NEG 1 in His feed back is in order, i made a living on the net selling parts. THIS IS NOT how you do Biss plane and simple.

and at the same time ya never Buy a used part the works with the ECM
unless it's dirt Cheap and your not going to be out anything more then your time.

(and you for sure dont buy anything from anybody with a 0 rating!!!)
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Old May 19, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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articwhite i appreciate your input but you should check my feedback and see that he already gave me a neg. kinda funny how it works--you sell 20 items, get emails thanking you for the parts, then they never leave a feedback---its like ebay, i've sold probably 1000 items and have about 500 positive feedbacks- half the people don't leave anything.
check my ads under northern california to see how many parts i've sold off my 89 iroc, and how many people have left a feedback? none
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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ron reece
the wire was still in it when he returned. it was also there when i sent it back to him (i also paid for that shipping).

as for me sitting on my azz all day- that is about the only thing you have been right about. i'm retired and i think i earned it. as for you donald, your still just a whining little b*tch.
I am not whinning at all. I am just trying to make it so you don't rip anyone else off.



And that wire is still in the maf, crappy angle and camera phone does that but he even said it was there.... so what else did I destroy on that maf?? Nothing.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ron reece
articwhite i appreciate your input but you should check my feedback and see that he already gave me a neg. kinda funny how it works--you sell 20 items, get emails thanking you for the parts, then they never leave a feedback---its like ebay, i've sold probably 1000 items and have about 500 positive feedbacks- half the people don't leave anything.
check my ads under northern california to see how many parts i've sold off my 89 iroc, and how many people have left a feedback? none

you dont want to get a rep for selling Junk,

never sell anything, you cant take back. and talk about it first

this is Just a heads up,you live and Die, by your feed back on the Net.

on a side note: dont Buy anything that you will get stuck with.
if it's Junk

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Old May 22, 2010 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ron reece
the receipt does not show that. he used mine for 2 weeks, destroyed it, then wants his money back. the receipt only shows he went and bought a new one after he tore mine up.
Originally Posted by ron reece
what do i have to say now?
you received a good working part, chose to destroy it, and now want a refund. aint going to happen
Dude, I'm sorry, but you make absolutely no sense. Popballz needed this part to get his car running, correct? You still have his money, correct? Why would he BUY the part he needs, DESTROY it, and go buy another, when you still have his cash for the first one?

WHERE IS THE PERSONAL GAIN THERE? There is none! He would in absolutely NO way benefit from buying the part from you, destroying it, and having to buy another, even if you choose to refund his money. He still has to deal with the cost and hassle of shipping.

If the part you sold him was functioning correctly, why would he WANT to destroy it? That would be like me smashing the spoiler that kurfbird sold me, and saying I want my 50 dollars back. I think what needs to happen here is you need to refund him his money. Popballz seems to be the more legit person here, who is in the right. He provided a receipt for the part that he had to go buy, because the one you sold him was not functioning correctly.

The point of a scam is PERSONAL GAIN. Not to hassle yourself with spending the money twice! That's called scamming yourself!
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Old May 22, 2010 | 03:16 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Why are you all piling up on ron? The minute popballs decided he needed to modify that maf he shot himself in the foot. I wouldn't want it back/refund his money either. He modified it, now it's his.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 03:18 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

I think you're including me when you say piling up on Ron. I'm not piling up on anyone, I went over the situation, and I'm saying what I think is fair. I have absolutely no clue who Ron or Popballz are, I don't think I've even seen any posts of their's before.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 03:30 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Fair would have been if the maf was defective and not molested/modified that popballz had received a refund but the moment he cut into it that all went out the window. If he has to be mad at someone he has to be on himself for being so dumb to modify it before testing. A lesson learned!!!
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Fair would have been if the maf was defective and not molested/modified that popballz had received a refund but the moment he cut into it that all went out the window. If he has to be mad at someone he has to be on himself for being so dumb to modify it before testing. A lesson learned!!!

Hey, I was just doing what someone told me (someone who I thought should know more about cars then me).

I can even take a picture of my NEW one, unmodified, I was not trying to modify it to "improve" it or "destroy" it. In my opinion I did not even "modify" it, what gains would one screen do? If I was trying to make more air flow (which is the only "gain" out there for removing the screens), I would have cut both screens.

haha, Shadow Z is completely right! Why would I try to scam him by spending more money? That is why I posted the receipt.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

No one is saying you wrecked it on purpose. While you were taking the screen out you maybe ruined something. There are several lessons here:

1. Don't buy used fragile parts that have to be shipped across the country

2. Test the part when you get it, before modifying

3. if for some reason you don't follow lesson 2, ask the selling if its ok to modify before doing it

4. never listen to parts store fools

5. if you have the means to buy new, do it, its almost always worth it
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

haha yea, I am going to be doing number 5 a lot from now on!

I was scared to buy a new maf because they are like $200! that is a lot of work if your only making minimum wadge!
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 04:57 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

"its like ebay, i've sold probably 1000 items and have about 500 positive feedbacks- half the people don't leave anything. "

I've received feedback on probably 90+% of what I sell. I also don't see any destruction done to that MAF, if the wires are still intact, how did he break it? I have 2 MAFs now with the rear screens removed for the exact same purpose, and I've ran one with no screens for a good long while. BTW is the plug area on that MAF all chewed up? If so when did that happen?

I'm not trying to jump sides here, but really, when you say destroyed, I was thinking he tore that thing up something awful. Like pulled the screens with a claw hammer or something.

Finally what are the numbers off that MAF?
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

One thing would have maybe prevented this from happening in the first place is never remove the screens from a MAF there main purpose is not to stop dirt debris from hitting the sensor.
Its main purpose is to smooth the air flow over the sensor wire smooth airflow will give you a more accurate mass air flow reading you wont gain power by removing them you will more then likely lose power.
And if your using a K&N filter with a MAF don't over oil the filter it will collect on the MAF wire then collect dirt and throw off your MAF readings.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
BTW is the plug area on that MAF all chewed up? If so when did that happen?

I'm not trying to jump sides here, but really, when you say destroyed, I was thinking he tore that thing up something awful. Like pulled the screens with a claw hammer or something.
He sent it to me with a chewed up plug

Exactly. It was not destroyed at all.

Originally Posted by 92RSMoneypit
One thing would have maybe prevented this from happening in the first place is never remove the screens from a MAF there main purpose is not to stop dirt debris from hitting the sensor.
Its main purpose is to smooth the air flow over the sensor wire smooth airflow will give you a more accurate mass air flow reading you wont gain power by removing them you will more then likely lose power.
Exactly. So HOW and WHY did I DESTROY it? Oh I know, I destroyed it to loose money and loose hp, so awesome!
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Why would this get locked? What are the numbers off this maf? The numbers off this MAF? A pic of the bottom would actually do just fine.
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
Why would this get locked? What are the numbers off this maf? The numbers off this MAF? A pic of the bottom would actually do just fine.
It needs to be locked because the part has been resent to popballz, obviously the only debates going on now are the destroyed debate and who and who not to buy from, nothing else will become of this transaction, as far as i see it, popballz is not a scammer as he has proven all he wanted was a working sensor and ended up haveing to shell out the big bucks for a new one in the end
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Him cutting out the MAF screen and then wanting a refund is as dumb as the guy who wants to know what I am gonna do for him after HE scrathed
HIS paint, installing the part I sold him.

some people have no common sense or simple logic.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

I killed my 89's maf with the same cleaner he used. I didnt go back complaining I went back for a new maf

side note the same cleaner worked fine on my 01 ws6 maf
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Re: popballz is a scammer

Originally Posted by popballz
Hey, I was just doing what someone told me (someone who I thought should know more about cars then me).
Then your beef is with the guy behind the counter and not the seller.

In the business world anything that is modified automatically becomes "yours" and takes the responsibility off the seller. If you buy fiberglass parts the minute you paint them they are non-returnable.
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