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please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

im not sure how to explain it but i need some help. i got a 91 rs vert theres 2 things needed to drop the top 1. the tonneau switch and 2. the release lever. the problem is the release lever. some piece broke off and i dont know how it looked so i dont know what to do to fix it. not the release lever itself but the part that it conects to under the cover where the back of the hood attaches to it. does anybody have a pic of this or can take a pic of it to show me what it looks like? i hope i explained myself enough for yall to be able to understand me
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

are u talking about the release lever that lets the tonneau come up or the release that lets the roof come up off the tonneau. some pics would be helpfull to see what your talking about exactly
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

i belive what he is talking about is the wire that comes from the handle that attaches to the key shaped thing under the tonneau if you were to fold the back seat and gently turn the little arm that has a hole where the cable was conected the back of the top will pop up the manual realease cables will lift the tonneau after that if in tact my solenoids stopped working before and i found that the saftey switch that doesn't allow the tonneau to open if the trunk is comes unplugged maybe check that after u check middle switch for power in the trunk below the lift motor behind courtseylight it is a white connector if i remember there is also a wiring diagrahm on here somewhere for all of it

reading ur question again mine just has the wire looping through the little hole in the arm but it's an 88 the weird key shaped thing slides in perpindicular to the arm i believe the key thing is what acually holds top down kinda like a cam lock type of thing for the love of camera i need one bad got alittle carried away above srry
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Here you go. Here's mine . . .



Note; for those with older ASC a rod system was used instead of the cable style. The set-up was slightly different but the principal is the same.

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover


thats exactly what i needed! the end of the cable broke off the part that attaches to the long bar with 3 holes and i didnt know how it all went.
i wanted to put more thank yous but im only allowed 5 thank you!
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

iroctopless - Thanks for posting these photos - When I bought my 'vert last Summer, the latch mechanism was a bunch of parts scattered in the trunk. I found this site, and your pictures, which I printed up and took straight down into the garage. Fixing the latch then took about five minutes. This is a great site.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Awesome! It's great to keep us fellow vert owners cruise'n in style!
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

now i even know how mine is supposed to go good deal i head to get a new realease cable neway as the handle is ripped off mine
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Originally Posted by Mark in Maine
iroctopless - Thanks for posting these photos - When I bought my 'vert last Summer, the latch mechanism was a bunch of parts scattered in the trunk. I found this site, and your pictures, which I printed up and took straight down into the garage. Fixing the latch then took about five minutes. This is a great site.

ditto what he said
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Thanks for the pics also. I have took my assembly apart over 3 years ago and forgot how to put it back together. Its not like we can go to our neighbors and look at their car. LOL I love and hate these oddball cars.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

On a related note, when I open the tonneau cover these days it doesn't support itself and stay open any more, I have to hold it.

Can anyone shed light on what I can adjust or replace to make it stay open?

Thanks

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

The cover should stay up by means of two torsion bars. You can see them criss-crossing near the bottom of my pic . . .


They are a fairly bullet-proof way of making a "spring" to keep the cover up. The only two things I can think of that would make it fail is if one of the bars should break (unlikely) or if one of the ends became unfastened (more likely). They provide lift because one end of each bar is secured to the cover and the other end to the body of the car. The tension (twist) on the bars is greatest with the cover down, thus they naturally want to hold the cover in the up position.
Check the torsion bars and make sure the ends are secure where they should be. They retain their spring-rate pretty good over time and don't normally just fail. Is it possible that a foreign object may have dislodged one of the ends?
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Iroctopless.. thanks for that will check the condition of the bars. They haven't failed, as in the cover slams down, rather they have become noticably weaker in holding the cover up.

I'll post what i find.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Ok had a look at the torsion bars and while they are securely in place, they appear to have been zip-tied together.. sure this must be a bad thing...
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

That does make a person go

Have you tried removing them to see exactly why they might be there?
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Does anyone have a tonneau latch system like this?? Its from my 88 Iroc vert.
Attached Thumbnails please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover-100_3503.jpg   please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover-100_3502.jpg  
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

You have the earlier rod type system (missing a few parts). ASC later replaced it with a cable operated system.


Here's a good link with more info . . .
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/conv...eau-cover.html

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Originally Posted by Iroctopless
You have the earlier rod type system (missing a few parts). ASC later replaced it with a cable operated system.


Here's a good link with more info . . .
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/conv...eau-cover.html
thanks bro just what the 3rd gen vert Doctor ordered!!
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

I really appreciate all the info received from this thread. I was able to fabricate the cable system on my 88's tonneau cover. I totally took out the remaining linkage of the rod system, and implemented the cable in its place. The whole setup was rather easy seeing as i had all the parts necessary to make it work from a spare 91 tonneau i had. Here are the results. Thanks again to all who contributed.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Looks good. Great job.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

That pic looks like you are missing the return spring on the latch?It runs from the hole in th eend of the arm back to the base to bring the latch back to the resting position.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

This picture

Originally Posted by Iroctopless
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Re: please can anybody help me with info on the tonneau cover

Originally Posted by rext
That pic looks like you are missing the return spring on the latch?It runs from the hole in th eend of the arm back to the base to bring the latch back to the resting position.
Interesting. Have you seen this spring or even better have any pics of this? I have never seen one there. What I have seen the far hole used for is . . .
Part of the older rod linkage system . . .


Or for the cable system . . .


Or some have even modded the lever to add the 2nd hole . . .


But no springs.
My latch works fine and has no issues without it.
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