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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc rebuild
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of an AC refrigerant that is 76% R-22, 20% R12, 2.5%R134-a 1.5%HC ?
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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I'm guessing he had a shop look at his ac and they wouldn't touch it because of that mess in his lines.

I have never heard of a that mixture. Sounds like the previous owner was none too picky with what he put in there.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Keep in mind that each of the refrigerants, IE R12, R22 and R134a are slightly different opperating ranges for the most efficiency. Because your AC sensors work by pressure, they determine when to turn on and off your compressor to get the proper temperatures and operating ranges. If you mix and match it might not work the way you think it should because the sensors are not calebrated for that mix.

JOhn
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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PSI?

I read the tech article and did not find any info. Does anyone know how many PSI of charge to put in. My system was converted few years ago. I do not want to over charge.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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From: northern maine usa/
Car: 1988 iroc/2000 saab 9-5
Engine: 355 tpi/Roller cam
Transmission: 700r4/2800 stall,megashifter
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Anybody know question,sounds like a truck mechanic was in the system,at one time or another.
Suction pressure should be around 30/40 running,and discharge shall rise to/not more than 350/ or so
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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R22, i know here,most people convert to 502, or 404A,similier to the R12/134a conversion.
Ive used HP66,on the R12, or 134 A,system and it works,but its really not the correct way to do things.
R22 in a R12 system, may work, but ive never done it.
For the price of 134a,id start new, its like 4 bucks a pound here.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Originally Posted by Keepin This One
R22, i know here,most people convert to 502, or 404A,similier to the R12/134a conversion.
Ive used HP66,on the R12, or 134 A,system and it works,but its really not the correct way to do things.
R22 in a R12 system, may work, but ive never done it.
For the price of 134a,id start new, its like 4 bucks a pound here.
22 will work in a 12 system BUT you have to change the pressure switches in order for the 22 to work properly. The difference between 22 & 12 systems are minor the major ones are the evaporation point and the condensing points, beyond that there is not much change.

Here inlies the problem... You can't just go out and purchase the different switches necessary to do the conversion for our cars. Going beyond that because 22 works at different pressures I am not sure if the pump is adequate or if it works too hard to let the system work properly.

134A is technically suposed to be the conversion, I would probably stick to that route.

John
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