DFI and ECM Discuss all aspects of DFI (Digital Fuel Injection), ECMs (Electronic Control Module), scanners, and diagnostic equipment. Fine tune your Third Gen computer system for top performance.

Ford EDIS with GM ECM?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:05 AM
  #1  
Ward's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 2,842
Likes: 6
From: Rowlett, TX
Car: 1988 GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.45
Ford EDIS with GM ECM?

I've been researching what all is required to install megasquirt, and so far the only real advantage I see over tuning the GM ECM is the ability to easily set up distributorless ignition, using a ford EDIS ignition module. It is not coil-on-plug, but uses coil packs, 4 of them for an 8 cylinder engine. It uses the 'wasted spark' method, which means that 2 plugs fire at once. This method does not need a cam position sensor, only a crank position sensor. I know I could add a crank position sensor without too much trouble, but I'm wondering how hard it would be to make the factory ECM control the EDIS module. It has 2 data wires, one for the ECM tach input, and one for the ECM advance control. The tach signal is a +5V squarewave, and the advance from the ECM is a +12V squarewave. I'm not sure how a GM ECM tells the ignition module to advance timing, is this even close? Most of the EDIS info I have found here:
http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/EDIS.htm

If this isn't feasible, are there any aftermarket options for something like this? I found a little bit of info on modifying an optispark setup and using an LT1 ecm, with LS1 coils, but that sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:19 AM
  #2  
Brian Esser's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: North Star, Ohio
Car: 1996 Chevrolet S10
Engine: 350 LT1
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.08:1
Re: Ford EDIS with GM ECM?

Have you looked into the megajolt setup?

http://www.autosportlabs.net/index.p..._Users_Welcome

It allows 3 diminsional timing programming and works with the EDIS. You would have to keep the opti in place to simply provide ref to the stock ECM.

You would have full tunability and it would work with the stock ECM.

Last edited by Brian Esser; Feb 25, 2008 at 06:33 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:42 AM
  #3  
Ward's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 2,842
Likes: 6
From: Rowlett, TX
Car: 1988 GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.45
Re: Ford EDIS with GM ECM?

I was thinking of a TPI ECM though, not LT1. I don't think I could put an opti on a gen I motor without significant mods, right?
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:26 AM
  #4  
Brian Esser's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: North Star, Ohio
Car: 1996 Chevrolet S10
Engine: 350 LT1
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.08:1
Re: Ford EDIS with GM ECM?

Though I suppose it would be possible if you had your own machine shop and an unlimited budget. But, the Opti isn't worth the hassle.

A TPI ECM would work with the Megajolt just fine.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
InfernalVortex
Electronics
10
Apr 20, 2021 11:31 AM
Falcon50
DFI and ECM
81
Aug 22, 2020 03:26 PM
Jlanz55
TPI
2
Sep 29, 2015 08:55 AM
efiguy
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
Sep 27, 2015 01:30 PM
82xCAMAROxZ28
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
2
Sep 27, 2015 12:31 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:09 AM.