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'6299 TBI Open Loop

Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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'6299 TBI Open Loop

Hey there all. I'm having some trouble after deleting my 02 sensor...when it goes closed loop it oscillates from lean to rich...go figure!

I was running with a wideband 02 with a narrowband output, but the controller box got wet (toasty!). I'm happy with my tables and am looking for a way to prevent it from going closed loop. There is no 'temp before entering closed loop' that I can find on the 6299.

Available settings related to it are:


BLM Enable map qualifier: I set this for 18kpa to max, 104kpa. Hopefully this will prevent it from going closed loop by moving the enable to wot?

MAX engine speed to enable BLM: I set this from 3500rpm to 0 rpm.

Closed loop timer warm: left this alone. My rational was no matter what the setting it will time out eventually, thus just delaying the issue

Closed loop timer cold: As above.


Any opinions on what I've done. I'm going to test it tonight but experience is the best teacher.


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Chay
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Re: '6299 TBI Open Loop

MAX engine speed to enable BLM: I set this from 3500rpm to 0 rpm.
That seems different? Does that not suggest to you that BLM is allowed only >3500 rpms? If so, zero rpm will allow BLM at all RPMs. That will not help you.

I suspect > 3500 BLM is disallowed as you wish OL only. >3500 maybe PE takes over fueling. leave that table as is? Or set to 6000 rpms?

How did that chage work out for you?
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Re: '6299 TBI Open Loop

You want to disable closed loop, not BLM learn. Otherwise the INTegrator will still adjust the fueling.

Try this location:

$222

It may be in ADC counts which means that zero (0) is 151* C.

The location may also be $227

I didn't decipher the hac all that much.

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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Re: '6299 TBI Open Loop

I think I found a crude work around.

I grounded the 02 sense lead. This prevented any cross counts and the ecm won`t enter closed loop it seems. It won`t change any BLMs.....they sit at 128. I didn't check the int....One would guess they would go full rich with the 02 grounded...I'll check and see if they move. I have to run it later today to check an oil leak fix anyway.

I`m using tunerproRT...how does one look at an individual address (If there is a way) ? In the resultant bin before programming:

$222 is $34 ( 52d)
$227 is $a5 (165d)


Do either of these values look right?

I've never hacked the bin before...is this a complicated process?

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Chay
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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Re: '6299 TBI Open Loop

Ah yes, tools/advanced/hex editor...same values, which is good!

Ronny, re: max...I think this cuts off BLM learn above this value, so at 0 they'd never come on.

I don't have a 02 sensor at all right now...I may add one though. It might help the situation I'm in. I think just a narrowband (heated) this time though! That way i could go back to closed look and leave all this stuff stockish.

Any suggestions on a part#?


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Chay
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Re: '6299 TBI Open Loop

I returned the values I modified and installed a simple 02 sensor. It seems to work great.

I`m still curious about the open loop though. I may not be able to maintain an 02 sensor so close to the head...it`s mounted just ouside the head, cylinder 2 in the ex manifold, the only dry place to put it.


Chay
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