Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
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Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Has anyone tried something like the Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101) on a TPI engine?
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-101
The Holley unit costs about $600 plus $180 for the 58 tooth crank sensor kit.
For a SBC it has four coils and produces a wasted spark.
Seems like a similar but easier conversion than a Ford EDIS or Northstar conversion.
The only review I've seen so far showed a dyno change of just 3hp.
From what I can gather I can use my stock 165 ECU to drive it?
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-101
The Holley unit costs about $600 plus $180 for the 58 tooth crank sensor kit.
For a SBC it has four coils and produces a wasted spark.
Seems like a similar but easier conversion than a Ford EDIS or Northstar conversion.
The only review I've seen so far showed a dyno change of just 3hp.
From what I can gather I can use my stock 165 ECU to drive it?
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Here are the details for the Universal Small Block Chevy crank sensor mounting kit PART# 556-102 (about $180.
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-102
Biggest hassle seems to be the need to cut the the crank balancer and move it and the accessory pulleys our a bit to make room for the crack sensor.
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-102
Biggest hassle seems to be the need to cut the the crank balancer and move it and the accessory pulleys our a bit to make room for the crack sensor.
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Can't be used with your '7165 ECM. Each coil needs to be triggered individually via the ECM. Apparently, the ECM also interfaces to the crank sensor. Which means it needs to decode the missing tooth wheel.
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
That's what I don't understand. The Holley doesn't include it's own ECM, but still must have some way to work out the ignition advance curve.
I assumes that a combination of the crank sensor and the ECU 165 signal triggered the coils?
I assumes that a combination of the crank sensor and the ECU 165 signal triggered the coils?
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
It's an add on/conversion for Holley ECUs, not a stand alone DIS system.
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
On to Plan B now I guess ...
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Peter,
You're in Australia. Have u looked at an MPR unit?
https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2913
You're in Australia. Have u looked at an MPR unit?
https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2913
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Very interesting.
I don't think the MPR unit is available yet, but I'll keep an eye on it.
I don't think the MPR unit is available yet, but I'll keep an eye on it.
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Has anyone tried something like the Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101) on a TPI engine?
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-101
The Holley unit costs about $600 plus $180 for the 58 tooth crank sensor kit.
For a SBC it has four coils and produces a wasted spark.
Seems like a similar but easier conversion than a Ford EDIS or Northstar conversion.
The only review I've seen so far showed a dyno change of just 3hp.
From what I can gather I can use my stock 165 ECU to drive it?
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/556-101
The Holley unit costs about $600 plus $180 for the 58 tooth crank sensor kit.
For a SBC it has four coils and produces a wasted spark.
Seems like a similar but easier conversion than a Ford EDIS or Northstar conversion.
The only review I've seen so far showed a dyno change of just 3hp.
From what I can gather I can use my stock 165 ECU to drive it?
Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Holley will do that too. You can add junk yard coils just like you can with a MS. Only thing you need is the harness and a way to trigger them the same way you would with a MS. Like this;
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/558-307
https://www.holley.com/products/igni.../parts/558-307
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
Just talked to holley the other and they are discontinuing the dis systems and moving away from the crank trigger. Was told they are releasing a kit mid year with the cnp ls style that will use a dual sync dis to fire it. No crank trigger
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
So the new Holley DIS will have both a crank and camshaft trigger that are synchronised?
Wonder how this would fit on a SBC?
Wonder how this would fit on a SBC?
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Re: Holley Distributorless Ignition System (P/N 556-101)
What I was told in the phone was thatbyou dont need the crank trigger wheel. Use their dual sync dis, use the dummy cover and get their cnp kit.



