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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 02:44 PM
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86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

Hello, I have a 1986 Tuneport IROC.

I replaced 305 with 350. It runs great. But, I know could be alot better.
I has a 700R4, 3:73 gears, MASS AIR gutted, Headers,

I purchased a JET Perofrmance Products Chip #18614S

Problem: engine will not start with this chip. Was told I need a 87 IROC Tuneport 350 Chip. I can't find one ANYWHERE.

Where can I get a chip to use with this combo? This is a piggyback chip.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Had chip for 4 years and havent been able to use.

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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 02:55 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

Sorry to restart this thread I can imagine it's been asked many times, but, my car is different.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

The jets is for a corvette and has vats enabled. If your wanting to bypass vats it can be reprogrammed .
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 03:39 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

For a cast iron head 87 l98 automatic you should have chosen jets 18705 or 18705s. Both the 86-89 corvette and tpi f body use the same 1227165 ecm.
There are differences between the years and f and y body ac pressure switch.
If this is incorrect the fan will run all the time.

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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 06:41 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

ok thanks for reply
its a 1995 four bolt main block 1990 Camaro Fast Burn Heads 348 hp roller cam.

I bypassed the key at bottom of steering col. It runs great. Just know that it may be lean and timing control isnt correct and could get more from it.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

An adjustable fuel pressure regulator might help.
Starting with arap (89 corvette) would be a good starter tune.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

I wanted to replace injectors and go to 24's. but wasnt going to do that until It ran on a 350 chip.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

I was told that all I needed was a 1987 prom from a Tune Port 350. to go with this Jet Chip.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

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I was told that all I needed was a 1987 prom from a Tune Port 350. to go with this Jet Chip.
You could use any memcal from 86-89 tpi 1227165 ecm with a piggyback.
It shows it’s for a 86 corvette so vats is enabled.
Look at the application listing
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/JET-18614S/
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

That is the same thing I have.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 09:12 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

Originally Posted by 350Z28Z
That is the same thing I have.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

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That is the same thing I have.
You can’t use it because your car didn’t come with vehicle anti theft system.
The 86 vette had vats. The ecm is expecting a hz signal from the passkey module that you don’t have.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

Ok car has a 350 TUNEPORT that chip was for a 350

So, the correct chip would have been 18611S for the 305L.

If I to find a 350 chip from 87. It still will not work because those cars had VATS.

Ok..... I have a 1989 RS Camaro that I have completely stripped. It has the VATS in the wiring. Since they use the same computers, could it be wired into the system?
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:03 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

Vats didn’t come out until 88 in some f body’s and 86 up in Vette’s.
You could use a vats system to feed the ecm a hz signal but with all that work it would be easier to have a prom burned for your application.
Theirs would be tbi and uses a different service number ecm.
The tpi you have used a 1227165 ecm the tbi rs if it was tbi uses a 1228746 ecm .

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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 02:35 PM
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Re: 86IROC 305 repaced with 350 Purchased prom doesnt start engine

I have had 7 Camaros and forgot that this 1986 was not one that had the VATS bypassed. Because someone before me had replaced Steering Col. with a later type that had VATS. It has a VATS type key....
The 86's with TBI did have it.
I am trying not to speed anymore money on this because I purchased a Chip from Summitt Racing and they will not return product now. I had called them several times about this problem.... Needless to say, I will not purchase anything else from them.......

I looked at the Passkey box on a 1989 wiring harness I have that was TBI and a TPI. Two different ones. Both have the same PASSKEY box part numbers. I looked at the wiring diagrams for both. Same.
From what I see I can key on several wires, PIN computer with Dark Blue and ground other wire. B6 is PIN location on computer.
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