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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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volumetric effeciency

hi,

i have setup my VE table halfways. added about 30% more than stock to all cells. good? bad?
need to know, what the VE Adder means. Is that added to the other VE table or what does it do?

btw. does someone have an example of what a VE table should look like?


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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Where did you add 30% (RPMs vs MAP)?
WHY did you add 30%?
What makes you think you had to add 30%?
What are the new modifications?

Don't do something unless the car is asking for it.

Tim
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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I have desktop dyno'd my engine. It says that the VE peak point is at 4500RPM with 85.5%. About 30% more than stock. added it at rpm vs. map.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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did you datalog? what are the mods? i dont think desktop dyno can provide anything to tune off of.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Unless you've logged some data and that is your reason to change the tables (or you've done this for a every long time) I would set your tables back to stock. More than likely you're just gonna run rich and slower.

As a longtime user of DD2k, it is a good tool for benchtop racing if the correct values are put in but I would never tune off of it.

Here are some example tables...

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ighlight=table

David
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:35 AM
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VE table #2 is an adder. It does just that. On anything past 3200rpm it uses the last row in the main VE table.
Use DD to FIND your peak vol eff point. This is all it's good for. If it says your peak is at 4500rpm then it's probably around that point so long as you entered in your head and cam info correctly. For starters, go ahead and use the data give to you buy DD for the 100kpa column. Then understand that anything less will be less vol eff, that simple. Start tuning idle first, get a stable idle, then light cruise, then go ahead and adjust your transient so as not to backfire through the intake .
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