Combating Knock
Combating Knock
After a few data logs I am in the process of trying to get rid of any knock the engine gets. I have converted the car to MAP and have used the 7730 knock sensor along with all the correct gear.
I have a 86 IROC 305 TPI and the chip I started off with was from a 1992 Z28 305TPI camaro. The BLMs are very close to perfect all around with not much deviation from 128 maybe +- 5 each way.
I have also taken away 2deg spark advance from across the board but I do still get occassional knock when I drive as registered by the laptop.
Yesterday I took the car for a test run 0-60 and at about 3000rpm @ 80kpa the ecm retarted timing from 2 - 5 deg for a long period of time until I slowed down again.
Also at high load 80kpa and higher going up a hill in OD it experienced knock. That is supposed to be normal??
And just when I was cruising there was the odd instance of knock soemtimes it did pull out timing sometimes it did not even pull out timing and just added a knock count.
I have now burnt another chip taking away 1.5deg spark advance from the trouble areas and see how it will go. I should be able to get rid of the knock completely or is it impossible?? I run the highest grade of fuel possible.
I should also mention that although I had reduced spark advance by 2 deg from across the board I had the best 0-60 time ever.
Any other tables in Tunerpro that you can play around with to fight knock? I have the car running at about 170 deg F.
Any imput would be great,
I have a 86 IROC 305 TPI and the chip I started off with was from a 1992 Z28 305TPI camaro. The BLMs are very close to perfect all around with not much deviation from 128 maybe +- 5 each way.
I have also taken away 2deg spark advance from across the board but I do still get occassional knock when I drive as registered by the laptop.
Yesterday I took the car for a test run 0-60 and at about 3000rpm @ 80kpa the ecm retarted timing from 2 - 5 deg for a long period of time until I slowed down again.
Also at high load 80kpa and higher going up a hill in OD it experienced knock. That is supposed to be normal??
And just when I was cruising there was the odd instance of knock soemtimes it did pull out timing sometimes it did not even pull out timing and just added a knock count.
I have now burnt another chip taking away 1.5deg spark advance from the trouble areas and see how it will go. I should be able to get rid of the knock completely or is it impossible?? I run the highest grade of fuel possible.
I should also mention that although I had reduced spark advance by 2 deg from across the board I had the best 0-60 time ever.
Any other tables in Tunerpro that you can play around with to fight knock? I have the car running at about 170 deg F.
Any imput would be great,
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There's no need to run the timing right up against the detonation threshold on a street car.
Often while excessive timing feels good the car is actually slower.
But, you'll want to have the whole table say 2-3d from the same detonation point. And you can cure some areas of detonation with a little more fuel, just before you see detonation.
Often while excessive timing feels good the car is actually slower.
But, you'll want to have the whole table say 2-3d from the same detonation point. And you can cure some areas of detonation with a little more fuel, just before you see detonation.
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Originally posted by Grumpy
But, you'll want to have the whole table say 2-3d from the same detonation point. And you can cure some areas of detonation with a little more fuel, just before you see detonation.
But, you'll want to have the whole table say 2-3d from the same detonation point. And you can cure some areas of detonation with a little more fuel, just before you see detonation.
Grumpy, what you mean buy having the table 2-3deg from the same detonation point. Meaning only reducing the advance by a maximum of 2-3d off the stock chip?
Adding more fuel via the BLM? or is there an enrich factor table you are talking about?
Not to worry I found the table where you can add fuel with regards to rpm.
Cheers!
Adding more fuel via the BLM? or is there an enrich factor table you are talking about?
Not to worry I found the table where you can add fuel with regards to rpm.
Cheers!
Last edited by IroczInOz; Jan 25, 2004 at 12:18 AM.
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