Hi guys I bought a PP2 and tunercat about a year ago. I have succesfully been burning proms just making little changes. After having finally solved many mechanical problems, I am trying to get some scanning software to work. I bought a cable from steve ruse and have tried scanning using winALDL but all I can get is raw data. No other features. There is a box on the top of the software with a red 5 in it. I tried connecting with the Craig Moates software a while ago and that did not work either. I would prefer to use the moates software, and I was just trying to use winaldl to get something going. To run winaldl I should just have to hook up the ruse cable right? I know this post is unorganized I am just trying to make this work. Thanks for any help -John

 

Well after some playing with the moates software I think that I have gotten it to link. There was an introductory screen explaining how to link, I am now past that and can see the rest of the screens so I am into the data logging portion, correct? I am now trying to get a better grip on what I am looking at so when scanning with moates is there anyoe who can help me work with the software and gain some knowledge from the values I am seeing. Thanks -John

 

for your 89, you should stay away from the 160 baud stuff (WinALDL in this case is 160 baud - no offense Jonas!). You have 8192 baud capabilities - you should use it!

Moates software works great, but be sure you're using it on Win98, and if not, boot to DOS using a diskette. Once you do that, you should be good!

Keep in mind you need a 10k resistor between A and B terminals in order to get an ALDL link.

Thats all you need!

 

Thanks for the reply. I am using craig's software and got it to link up yesterday I am just trying to figure out how to interpret the information that I am seeing. Trying to figure out how to use the log and plot and functions. I was trying to find some instructions or an overview but can't seem to locate one anywhere. Thanks -John

 

I've found the log function to be by far the most important. It'll save a comma delimited file to the Moates ECM subdirectory, default filename being something like GMmmdd##.csv (with mm and dd being the month and day, and the ## being an incremental number).

csv files are just numbers separated by commas; you can open them with any decent spreadsheet program, e.g. Excel or Lotus 123. Once the data is in Excel, you can sort, manipulate, and graph to your heart's content.

If you don't yet know how to use a spreadsheet program, it'd be worth taking a little time to learn, IMHO.

 

I am just having trouble understanding the moates program and the functions of it. I thought that when u used the F1-F4 keys that the latest data would be displayed, but sometimes the facts would look wrong. Like the engine run time stayed at 17 seconds. Guess I gotta tinker and find out. For some reason I can't open any of the works documents that came with the program and I think maybe one of those is instructions. Thanks -John

 

IIRC, the Word documents that unzip with ECM853 all pertain to the shareware compiler & so forth, and not to the actual ECM scanning program.

Matter of fact, about the only "instruction" document I can think of is rather outdated.
http://moates.net/text/e6-doc.txt

What that means is, you'll probably learn to use the program by trial and error more than anything else.

That's not intended as criticism, BTW. Being that ECM is a FREE program, he's in no way obligated to spend his time writing instruction manuals for it. Besides, Craig probably has a soldering iron in hand most of the time, trying to keep pace with our demand for those nifty little gadgets he makes.

 

Naw, his sweat shop has that covered:
http://www.moates.net/about.htm

Hehe.

 

Well, now we know why the stuff actually works.

 

A major manufacturing center, who knew?.
100% diversifiacation in hiring.
I expect to see a NYSE listing soon.
A up and coming firm to be sure....

 

Thanks Dave that page was actually helpful in beginning to work with this program. I am going to be playing with it all this week. -Also, after some searching I have seen the 8192 baud rate referred as faster than some others but could not find the specifics. Does it allow you to read data points faster while data logging? Thanks again - John

 

Yup.
160 baud probably won't even get you one frame per second.
I've seen about 8 frames per second from a 165 at 8192.
When you start trying to tune transitional stuff, that's a huge difference. A lot can happen in one second.

 

160 baud on a '165 will get you .67 samples per second, and thats with 25 data bytes

8192 will yield 10 (sometimes 11) samples a second, and thats with 63 data bytes.


8192 sends *more* information to the port at a *faster* sample rate than with 160 baud.

 

Thanks thats what I thought. Thanks for all the help as I'm sure there will be tons more questions in the coming weeks. I'm just glad to be getting started finally. -John