Way Lean Startup Open Loop Fix?
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Car: 91 Formula WS6 (Black, T-Tops)
Engine: 383 MiniRam (529 HP, 519 TQ - DD2K)
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Way Lean Startup Open Loop Fix?
When I first start the motor, with IAT temps around 67-70 degrees (beleive the problem exists colder as well, but no data logs), while in open loop my O2 voltages are running in double digits (0.22 - 0.85v) until it reaches the closed loop temp, and then my BLMs are running right around 128 (+/- 4).
What do I need to change to eliminate this open loop idle leaness? This is a 383 with SUperRam, 28# LS1 injectors, $8D map, MAT sensor relocated to just above the filter behind pass head light.
Only changes made in tune primarily VE and spark table changes so far.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
- Vern
What do I need to change to eliminate this open loop idle leaness? This is a 383 with SUperRam, 28# LS1 injectors, $8D map, MAT sensor relocated to just above the filter behind pass head light.
Only changes made in tune primarily VE and spark table changes so far.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
- Vern
Vern do you have TunerPro?
If so you need to change the Loop Open % Change AFR Vs. Temp
TunerCat is
Open Loop % Change AFR Vs. Temp
It's in the tables section.
Also you can not trust the O2 sensor when you first start the motor, my WBO2 shows 11.5 to 1 when I first start up and the stock O2 is showing .56 to .42 volts.
Also that's a long vaccum hose on the MAP sensor.
If so you need to change the Loop Open % Change AFR Vs. Temp
TunerCat is
Open Loop % Change AFR Vs. Temp
It's in the tables section.
Also you can not trust the O2 sensor when you first start the motor, my WBO2 shows 11.5 to 1 when I first start up and the stock O2 is showing .56 to .42 volts.
Also that's a long vaccum hose on the MAP sensor.
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Is your air injection still intact? That'll inject air at the manifold before closed loop. If it's actually lean (excessively lean, that is) it will run a little rough - is it running rough?
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Yep, it's definitely running lean, although the air injection is a good point to remember as far as the O2 sensor reading is concerned (mine is totally emissions compliant and legal).
Thanks Phil, I'll change the table a smidge and see if that helps any. May shorten my time before going into closed loop (and the temp) a little bit as well....
THANKS, GUYS!!!
- Vern
Thanks Phil, I'll change the table a smidge and see if that helps any. May shorten my time before going into closed loop (and the temp) a little bit as well....
THANKS, GUYS!!!
- Vern
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