Ok, now I need some Ostrich info please. Well I just got Ostrich in and did new drivers thing , picked my AO xdf and loaded my bin. Hooked up ostrich to truck hit emulate and fired it up. Ran fine made adjustment or two and it did as expected.

Now I seen that was a xdf I didnt like , so I changed back to the one I liked re loaded bin and then the flash of death hit me, the limp home flash. Now it dont matter what I do , even switched ecms and still no worky. made sure com was right, checked the AA at 08 loaded several good bins but still same result. Now I do have my pins 1,2,26,27,28 on my 28 pin dip socket hard wired/soldered in, would this affect how I put bin file on? Do I need to go in and add a xdf with the off set put to 0F000 and AO for mask then pick the AO xdf to use? Or do I go in and set the 28 jumpers to 24 inside the Ostrich? As always thanks in advance for any info.

 

Have you tried re-use the first XDF (the one you "didn't like") to see if that's the problem?

Don't set the Ostrich jumpers to 24 pin for a 28 pin emulation.

John

 

Well yes and no, I did burn a chip before work this morning and installed it, worked fine, no limp home mode. I also put same bin on the ostrich and will see if it works at break time.

 

YIPPPEEEEE, wasnt my own fault this time. Come to find out it was an ostrich fault. Ok , now lets see what I can get into?

 

hi i have been dataloggin for a bit now using ecm852 with a old laptop...i just got a newer USB laptop and i want to get tunner pro rt and the ostrich..how do you like the ostrich and is it worth it? what are you usin to run it? is it user friendly? i dont know much about burnin yet but im very willing to learn!! any info/help is needed thanks!

 

Hey 355tpipickup , sorry I didnt reply. I'm on here all the time and must have missed your post.

I do like the ostrich alot, it makes life simpler for short. I like the ability to put your settings in on real time with truck running instead of having to make a new chip for every setting you change. I did that for about a week and that got old FAST. I would recommend it to anyone who does this and the folks at Moates are great too, thats the main reason I went with the ostrich.

 

Don't get "awed" and sidetracked with the ability to make a bunch of changes. Doing it the hard way with a chip burner is the best way to learn for a beginner. It gives you time to think AND WRITE DOWN what you are doing.
I have been using an emulator long before the Moates stuff was out there..........and guess what. I still use the chip burner most of the time.
My recommendation for anyone starting to learn chip burning is to use a programmer and not an emulator.

 

^ What he said... ^

 

OK, OK........I do agree with both of you........but in my own defense I was doing this as stated, chip by chip. But some times one just has to just tinker with something to find out what the "ACTION /REACTIN" is going to be, just like getting a new camcorder or something, what the instructions say and how you figure out the way it works are two different things. The same for ecm programing, for me anyway, what you read on how the BPW and VE1/2 tables are affected by one another....AND....what actually happened in real time were totally different to me. I have an entirely new outlook on this because I seen what is does now,LOL. (don;t tell grumpy cuz the engine wasn't HAPPY)

I do use winaldl and make a log on the way to work, print a copy and make corrections by hand with a calculator at work , put diffs on lap top(tunerpro rt), and enter it into the ostrich for the ride home. (cant seem to get that 1000-1350 stumble out) . Anyway , EXPERIENCE speaks grater than any amount of reading or "eduma'cation" one can have and,

ELIZABETH..........ELIZABETH.........THIS IS THE BIG ONE BABY.......I'M COMING TO THE OTHER SIDE TO SEE YA'!!!!!!

I'm converting over this weekend, gonna add the internal ignition module to my HEI and try to get away from the "fuel only" thing. Have to see what I've been missing because when my 256/4.2L and 360/5.9L's grow up I want them both to be just like 350. LOL , HMMM thats one to think about, now huh? Built jeep tuff with chevy parts.....LOL

 

Everyone likes to do it different. Do which ever works best for you, bnt write down the reaction/action to use as a guide to what to do next. I think you posted about making flowcharts on some of the paramters and affects.
Since the main topic of this thread has been answered and it turned into more of a catch all thread. I will ask. Without the GM ignition module, how are you feeding the RPM signal into the ECM?

Wasn't it "Lizzy"? I hope you get it run at least as fast as Red's old Ford.

 

Blaaaaahhhhhh, lol, lol. Thats to funny , I thought it was elizabeth, lol,lol. And yes, catch all is correct.

I am running a howell system, so I get my EST from the negative side of the coil. You have to have one of their "majic" pcb strips hidden with a thick shrink wrap and a red and white wire coming off of it. (about the size of a 27SF512 chip)It is supposed to stabilize the voltage spikes and to keep from smoke checking the ecm. Seems like a high tech votlage regulator to me but I wont cut the majic carpet off the outside yet or at least till I get the ICM stuff installed. Need it to run you know, lol. Must be something to it , no one can seem to duplicate it or if they can they're not tellin'. As it ended up today I didnt even work on getting truck converted over. , I went to u pull it yard and picked up a complete 6 cyl HEI with internal control module. I dont want to have to drill and tap holes on existing HEI, just change drive gear and dump it in. (AMC stuff)

OK, since this is a catch all post, how important is a VSS? Is it really a must or just something I can put to ground ? I hear/read both view points on tuning/programing but have to ask for myself.

 

It might have been "Weezy". I can't really remember either.

To have everything just right you need the VSS. I wouldn't worry about it in your case for right now. Just having the spark will keep you busy for a while. If you leave the VSS disconnect it will read as 0 mph.

 

Watch that VSS for deceleration. I had mine disconnected for a little while on $8D code, and it really threw things. The vehicle wanted to stall and die as you decelerated (this is with a manual trans). For example in neighborhood stop-sign driving, it became problematic. Just something to consider.

 

It was Elizabet, Weezy was the jeffersons. Heres the link...click on the second .wav file, LOL, LOL.

http://tvland.classictvhits.com/SanfordandSon/Sounds/

Ok , I'll just leave it grounded for now. But out of curiosity how much voltage/signal does it----do they produce to send a signal to the ecm? I picked up 3 or 4 of the them from 89-91 cavaliers.

 

Father I can not tell a lie!

OK , I got the ditstributor converted over to the internal ICM and I still have a stumble at 1000-1200 now but I'll get that worked out. Now from what I said earlier on the fuel only thing, there are 4 wires coming from a pcb and not 2. The board has a 14 pin chip, 3 resistors a diode and 2 little yellow square... what I think are resistors also. I have not seen these before.

The funny thing is , truck runs the same with either the "fuel only setup" vs. the "ecm controled spark setup". HMMMM, had a lot more response with the fuel only to tell you the truth. Jury still out for me though.

I wrote down where the wires from the fuel only setup came from so if anyone would like to know I'll give it to ya'.

Just cought me funny to know that the rpm's actually set up to tell injectors when to fire. They picked off a 5v ref and also picked off a common ecm ground I guess for power to the little pcb board.....then took the negative rpm signal run it into the pcb and then out to the what would be the refrence high /B5 on ecm. kinda slick if you think about it huh?

 

I have a carb car with stock computer and not so stock motor. I saw that one of this ostrich emulators were for sale and couldnt find any real good info on it.
can someone tell me what exactly is does? does it act as a chip or is it like a programmer? secondly how hard is it to use? ive read that ppl had to do calculations. lastly how effective is it? and will i be able to use it on my car?

i know my car needs some serious tuning and i would like it if i can use this. if it will work.

 

If you are not running a VSS try turning up the blades until it doesn't die when coasting to a stop. It will be more than it really wants but it will work.

 

The Ostrich acts as a surrogate 'replacement' for a chip. However, I don't know of a whole lot of folks working with the CCC carb stuff. Wish I could offer more encouragement in this regard. I don't think the Ostrich would be the greatest thing for this application.