Interesting observation on highway mode
Interesting observation on highway mode
I made a little stupid observation this week. My girlfriends house is 31miles away. I used to barely make it there on a quarter tank when I was 100% stock. Now I have a 10lb blower, 24# injectors, 3:73s and a custom prom where my friend invoked highway mode. Would you believe my mileage actually slightly improved. Even with the addition of the blower and 24# injectors!
Last night I had enough gas to make it home, and go cruising!
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91 Formula
305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6
Paxton SN92 polished kit, SLP airfoil, ported/polished plenum, March pulleys, Crane AFPR(43psi),Crane Gold 1.6rrs,MSD coil,MSD6AL,MSD boost-master,Holley 9mm wires,Ac delco R43ts plugs,custom chip,Ford SVO 24# injectors,Bosch O2sensor, Bosch in-line pump(w/stock pump), SLP 1 5/8" headers,SLP catback,short shifter,3:73s w/Auburn posi,170* t-stat,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Autometer gauges, Zoom hi-performance clutch.
[This message has been edited by theformula (edited February 27, 2001).]
Last night I had enough gas to make it home, and go cruising!
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91 Formula
305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6
Paxton SN92 polished kit, SLP airfoil, ported/polished plenum, March pulleys, Crane AFPR(43psi),Crane Gold 1.6rrs,MSD coil,MSD6AL,MSD boost-master,Holley 9mm wires,Ac delco R43ts plugs,custom chip,Ford SVO 24# injectors,Bosch O2sensor, Bosch in-line pump(w/stock pump), SLP 1 5/8" headers,SLP catback,short shifter,3:73s w/Auburn posi,170* t-stat,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Autometer gauges, Zoom hi-performance clutch.
[This message has been edited by theformula (edited February 27, 2001).]
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From: Red Bud, Illinois
Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 383
Transmission: Pro-Built 700R4 2400 ACT Stall
Axle/Gears: 2.77 Borg Warner 9-Bolt
sounds like a soon to be hot topic to me with all the new comers to the DIY world and the riseing gas prices...
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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI
-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Problems every other day with the car (probably not a mod, but to me it sure makes a difference)
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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI
-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Problems every other day with the car (probably not a mod, but to me it sure makes a difference)
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From: In reality
Car: An Ol Buick
Engine: Vsick
Transmission: Janis Tranny Yank Converter
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by theformula:
I made a little stupid observation this week. My girlfriends house is 31miles away. I used to barely make it there on a quarter tank when I was 100% stock. Now I have a 10lb blower, 24# injectors, 3:73s and a custom prom where my friend invoked highway mode. Would you believe my mileage actually slightly improved. Even with the addition of the blower and 24# injectors!
Last night I had enough gas to make it home, and go cruising!
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I made a little stupid observation this week. My girlfriends house is 31miles away. I used to barely make it there on a quarter tank when I was 100% stock. Now I have a 10lb blower, 24# injectors, 3:73s and a custom prom where my friend invoked highway mode. Would you believe my mileage actually slightly improved. Even with the addition of the blower and 24# injectors!
Last night I had enough gas to make it home, and go cruising!
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From: The Bone Yard
Car: Death Mobile
Engine: 666 c.i.
I'm upto 17.6:1 with spark advance of 46.9*. I REALLY found the Highway Mode Spark Advance necessary to keep the responsivness from dropping off and a "smooth feel" to the engine.
I found the GM HMSA code within the 8D eprom did not work and I had to alter the code to get it to work the way I liked. Also, I engage Higway Mode at 45 Km/h (28 mph) and Highway Mode Spark Advance at 64 Km/h (42 mph). Not only did my highway gas mileage dramatically increase (20% on my preliminary tests) but my city mileage even more so. I am even looking at leaning the engine in "normal" operation from 14.7:1 to high 15s.
The beauty is, this is all seamless. You never feel it go into/from highway mode from "normal" or "power enrichment". Very smooth when you get it working right.
For HMSA, I changed the code to engage at a certain vehicle speed (new code)while RPM is below certain levels (altered from the stock requirement of being over a certain rpm). Works far better than the stock parameters. I still check the coolant level and MAP (I disengage it at 73 kpa).
I can climb a 6% grade and remain in both Highway Mode and HMSA with no knock or loss of power.
I think 17.6:1 is the "outer limits" for Highway Mode. I found above that (tested 18:1) that the O2 sensor dropped to single digits and the injector pulse width actually increased from 17.6:1 on a stretch of highway I have been using to test all of this.
When testing all this, I discovered that "octane code" pulled out timing for "long term" and I had to "fiddle" with that to get it to "return" quicker and easier. But this is another problem with the 8D code, in that it will pull 4* of timing out of your maximum spark advance if you encounter more than 6* of knock at 70 kpa of MAP (or higher). Unfortunately, the code only adds back about .3* IF you do not encounter any knock the next time you go over 70 kpa. I have since modified these parameters and I now recover all my timing back very quickly. Now I can use my knock sensor as a "safety" without penalizing myself for a long time.
I found the GM HMSA code within the 8D eprom did not work and I had to alter the code to get it to work the way I liked. Also, I engage Higway Mode at 45 Km/h (28 mph) and Highway Mode Spark Advance at 64 Km/h (42 mph). Not only did my highway gas mileage dramatically increase (20% on my preliminary tests) but my city mileage even more so. I am even looking at leaning the engine in "normal" operation from 14.7:1 to high 15s.
The beauty is, this is all seamless. You never feel it go into/from highway mode from "normal" or "power enrichment". Very smooth when you get it working right.
For HMSA, I changed the code to engage at a certain vehicle speed (new code)while RPM is below certain levels (altered from the stock requirement of being over a certain rpm). Works far better than the stock parameters. I still check the coolant level and MAP (I disengage it at 73 kpa).
I can climb a 6% grade and remain in both Highway Mode and HMSA with no knock or loss of power.
I think 17.6:1 is the "outer limits" for Highway Mode. I found above that (tested 18:1) that the O2 sensor dropped to single digits and the injector pulse width actually increased from 17.6:1 on a stretch of highway I have been using to test all of this.
When testing all this, I discovered that "octane code" pulled out timing for "long term" and I had to "fiddle" with that to get it to "return" quicker and easier. But this is another problem with the 8D code, in that it will pull 4* of timing out of your maximum spark advance if you encounter more than 6* of knock at 70 kpa of MAP (or higher). Unfortunately, the code only adds back about .3* IF you do not encounter any knock the next time you go over 70 kpa. I have since modified these parameters and I now recover all my timing back very quickly. Now I can use my knock sensor as a "safety" without penalizing myself for a long time.
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From: The Bone Yard
Car: Death Mobile
Engine: 666 c.i.
I should add, that this "octane" spark retard is in addition to the regular knock retard's attack/decay rates. It's amazing how much advance you can end up loosing.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Glenn91L98GTA:
I should add, that this "octane" spark retard is in addition to the regular knock retard's attack/decay rates. It's amazing how much advance you can end up loosing.</font>
I should add, that this "octane" spark retard is in addition to the regular knock retard's attack/decay rates. It's amazing how much advance you can end up loosing.</font>
what is that "octane" spark retard thing? Does it have to do with the fuel octane rating?
Rick
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