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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 07:23 PM
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Idle Surge

747 TBI, almost stock 350. Idles at 40kpa, 575rpms, in drive when hot.

I'm having trouble keeping it from surging at idle. Sometimes shifting into drive stalls the engine.

It surges after sitting in drive for a minute or so. RPMs fall, MAP goes to 50 and then it revs up again.

Timing is the same from 400-1200rpm X 30-50KPA. BLMs aren't moving a whole lot, 124-128 pretty much. Changes to fueling made it worse in both directions (lean/rich).

Any suggestions?
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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 07:53 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brent:
747 TBI, almost stock 350. Idles at 40kpa, 575rpms, in drive when hot.

I'm having trouble keeping it from surging at idle. Sometimes shifting into drive stalls the engine.

It surges after sitting in drive for a minute or so. RPMs fall, MAP goes to 50 and then it revs up again.

Timing is the same from 400-1200rpm X 30-50KPA. BLMs aren't moving a whole lot, 124-128 pretty much. Changes to fueling made it worse in both directions (lean/rich).

Any suggestions?
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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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Hey Grump, are you just testing out the quote feature or did I miss something?

Steve
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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 03:02 PM
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Grumpy, I don't think your reply made it.
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 04:02 PM
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I had trouble w/ mine after advancing initial timing to 12deg BTDC. Idle was all over the place, you could see the IAC "chasing" it like crazy. I had burned a chip with the reference timing set to 12 also, tried this and my ARAP-base chip and both showed the same symptoms.

RPM would go up, IAC would go down to bring down the RPM...RPM would go down and nearly stall, IAC would go up to bring up the RPM...repeat loop.

Setting initial timing back to 8deg BTDC and clearing ECM memory did the trick. Check your initial timing.

-Kevin

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See http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=276 for details
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