Help me hit the ground running
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From: Stoughton, MA
Engine: 5.7 vortec crate w/TPI
Transmission: 2004r
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Help me hit the ground running
I want to tune a 730 ECM for use with my speed density TPI swap; I've already got a copy of Tunerpro, an Autoprom, a 730 ECM, and the GP1 package.
I was also thinking that I would use the s_aujp_v3.bin and the 8D.xdf..this a good match?
I'm not running any emissions equipment or VATS, so both of those need to be disabled. I'm also not running a lock-up converter in my 2004r, but I did buy the 4000 pulse per mile VSS, so I shouldn't have to change anything for that.
I think I have a handle on the constants and tables/functions, and there's also a ton of reading material on this if I get lost.
The only thing that I can't find is a definition for the flags/switches.
The only "info" I found on them was this: http://www.edgesz28.com/edgesz28/sup...per8-flags.htm
and that really isn't telling me too much
So, can someone define what these switches do? It looks like each one has 8 parts to it, and each one can be checked/unchecked, but I'm not really sure what the effect would be.
For example:
"Switch 18 (VSS M/AT U-TCC I-MAT VSS CCPE) - Bit 1 - B1" is unchecked.
VSS: vehicle speed sensor
M/AT: manual/auto trans?
U-TCC: something with the lockup for the converter?
I-MAT: something with the manifold temp sensor?
VSS: vehicle speed sensor, again
CCPE:something again with lockup?
...help?
I was also thinking that I would use the s_aujp_v3.bin and the 8D.xdf..this a good match?
I'm not running any emissions equipment or VATS, so both of those need to be disabled. I'm also not running a lock-up converter in my 2004r, but I did buy the 4000 pulse per mile VSS, so I shouldn't have to change anything for that.
I think I have a handle on the constants and tables/functions, and there's also a ton of reading material on this if I get lost.
The only thing that I can't find is a definition for the flags/switches.
The only "info" I found on them was this: http://www.edgesz28.com/edgesz28/sup...per8-flags.htm
and that really isn't telling me too much
So, can someone define what these switches do? It looks like each one has 8 parts to it, and each one can be checked/unchecked, but I'm not really sure what the effect would be.
For example:
"Switch 18 (VSS M/AT U-TCC I-MAT VSS CCPE) - Bit 1 - B1" is unchecked.
VSS: vehicle speed sensor
M/AT: manual/auto trans?
U-TCC: something with the lockup for the converter?
I-MAT: something with the manifold temp sensor?
VSS: vehicle speed sensor, again
CCPE:something again with lockup?
...help?
Last edited by SS ninja; May 17, 2007 at 10:05 AM.
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
Re: Help me hit the ground running
Get a copy of the AUJP hac file off Moates and look at addresses starting at L8000.
I'm thinking you are talking about these.
From there you can search the lines in the file for where they are used and see the commenting that is there for it.
Should help you decide if you need to set one or not for your configuration.
Compare the values with a stock bin for reference.
Jp
I'm thinking you are talking about these.
Code:
L8016: .byte 0x10 ; AFR OPTION WORD 1 ($10 = 0001 0100) ($04 = no VATS)
; DRef: 0xD8B6,0xD936,0xB35D,0xCF3E,0xD03C,0xE140
;---------------------------------------------
; b7, 0, 1 = --
; b6, 0, 1 = USE A/D BATT FOR INJ Lk Up, (else use PUMP VDC)
; b5, 0, 1 = OPEN LOOP PURGE
; b4, 1, 1 = ENABLE VATS
;
; b3, 0, 1 = LET LOW TPS DISABLE CCP
; b2, 1, 1 = 4TH GEAR SWITCH N.O.
; b1, 0, 1 = 16 Hz CCP SOLENIOD IN USE
; b0, 0, 1 = RPM FOR TCC, 0 = MPH
;
;----------------------------------------------
L8017: .byte 0x04 ; AFR OPTION WORD 2, 0000 0100
; DRef: 0xD6B0,0xCFA9
;----------------------------------------------
; b7, 0, 1 = --
; b6, 0, 1 = --
; b5, 0, 1 = --
; b4, 0, 1 = --
;
; b3, 0, 1 = --
; b2, 0, 1 = DUAL AIR VALVE/ 0 = SINGLE
; b1, 0, 1 =
; b0, 0, 1 = EGR DIAG, 1 PASS OPT
;
;----------------------------------------------
;----------------------------------------------
L8018: .byte 0x50 ; AFR OPTION WORD 3, 0101 0000 (S_V2=50, stock was D8)
; DRef: 0xD542,0xB05B,0xB12A,0xD7D1,0xCFF8,0xBEEE,0xCF57,
; 0xCA45,0xD036,0xBF7F,0xDFF8,0xE0D6
;----------------------------------------------
; b7 = 0, 1 = CCP WHEN OUTPUT ENRGIZED
; b6 = 1, 1 = MAGNETIC SPEED SENSOR INSTALLED, B9 & B10 Connect
; 0 = OPTICAL SPEED SENSOR(5V Square wave) uses Pin "C6" 7730
; b5 = 0, 1 = INT RESET WHEN BLM CELL CHG
; b4 = 1, 1 = OPT INV MAT Lk Up
;
; b3 = 0, 1 = UNLOCK TCC IN DECEL FUEL C/O
; b2 = 0, 1 = CPU Auto Ratio Sel, 1 = CARS, 0 = TCC
; b1 = 0, 1 = INT RESET WHEN Accel Enr IN WORK
; b0 = 0, 1 = COOL FOR IDLE SPEED TIME OUT
;
;----------------------------------------------
L8019: .byte 0x29 ; AFR OPT WD 4, 0000 1001 (S_V2=29, stock was 2D)
; DRef: 0xDD85,0xCA68,0xB975
;----------------------------------------------
; b0 , 1 = ERROR 32 DISABLED IF PASSES 1 TIME
; b1
; b2 , 1 = 4th GR HIWAY MODE SA CHECK
; b3 , 1 = IF CCP CHG, FORCE INT TO 128
;
; b4 , 1 = TCC LOCKED HIWAY S.S. CHK ENAB
; b5 , 1 = N.O. FAN REQ INPUT
; b6 , 1 = PWR STEER SW INSTALLED
; b7
;---------------------------------------------- Should help you decide if you need to set one or not for your configuration.
Compare the values with a stock bin for reference.
Jp
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
Re: Help me hit the ground running
VSS: vehicle speed sensor
Are you using magnetic or optical ?
M/AT: manual/auto trans?
Are you using auto or manual ?
U-TCC: something with the lockup for the converter?
If auto, do you want converter to stay locked while decellerating?
I-MAT: something with the manifold temp sensor?
Do you want to use Inverted MAT table.. (I Forget this one)
and so on and so on...
You'll need to search on the individual ones to obtain answers to functions.
There is no all encompassing source to answer what everything does.
Are you using magnetic or optical ?
M/AT: manual/auto trans?
Are you using auto or manual ?
U-TCC: something with the lockup for the converter?
If auto, do you want converter to stay locked while decellerating?
I-MAT: something with the manifold temp sensor?
Do you want to use Inverted MAT table.. (I Forget this one)
and so on and so on...
You'll need to search on the individual ones to obtain answers to functions.
There is no all encompassing source to answer what everything does.
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From: Stoughton, MA
Engine: 5.7 vortec crate w/TPI
Transmission: 2004r
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Help me hit the ground running
Ah gotcha. Thanks for the heads up on that file though!
I know I've got a ton of reading to do...I just needed someone to point me in the right direction.
I know I've got a ton of reading to do...I just needed someone to point me in the right direction.
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From: houston
Car: 83 POS monte carlo 2015 chevy P/U
Engine: 92 5.7 tpi 5.3
Transmission: 700r4 6L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.42 too high
Re: Help me hit the ground running
don't do it like i did when i first started & get locked in to using one def file.
each of the bin defs seem to name some things a little differently or do some things a little differently.
i use 8D, 8d_v03, & Super_8dm2.xdf, Super is the main one i use.
also, sometimes you can right click on an item & then click edit item XDF info & can find out more about what that item does. for instance, you can get Super_8dm2.xdf & go into edit item & there is a description box. in Super_ 8dm2, in constants for "BLM Integrator Value Max" the description box has
"Normal BLM Integrator Max. Value is 160 for a stock bin. This is the short term or INT value of the BLM cell."
for a really good datastream file, get FIRST THIRD GEN 1227730.ads, its the only one i use for data logging.
all of these are at Moates
each of the bin defs seem to name some things a little differently or do some things a little differently.
i use 8D, 8d_v03, & Super_8dm2.xdf, Super is the main one i use.
also, sometimes you can right click on an item & then click edit item XDF info & can find out more about what that item does. for instance, you can get Super_8dm2.xdf & go into edit item & there is a description box. in Super_ 8dm2, in constants for "BLM Integrator Value Max" the description box has
"Normal BLM Integrator Max. Value is 160 for a stock bin. This is the short term or INT value of the BLM cell."
for a really good datastream file, get FIRST THIRD GEN 1227730.ads, its the only one i use for data logging.
all of these are at Moates
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