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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I did a search and found nothing. Checked the help topics in TP and found nothing. I believe I loaded the latest release of TP on 10/2007.

How does one do above? My are a bit ragged. I understand each tune is differrent but should they not have some smooth lines rather than peaks and valleys?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I just smoothen by hand. I know it has a smoothen feature in the tool box- I just prefer to do it myself. Besides, I don't know how to do it...lol sorry
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

AH HA ! found it. now next question is a value used? I suspect 1.00 will work.

As far as doing by hand do you just interpolate between adjoining cells(up-down-right-left)?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I used .99 on value and it changed little. maybe I should use a smaller value like .80? range is 0-.99...
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

yes, and you can even select just a portion of the table and smooth it, there is a minimum selection, but not sure what the spec is on that.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

let me give an example of my 1800 rpm row 20-100 map. I will round to whole #.

27 27 21 27 33 36 43 42 56 55 72 66 69 73

some of these cells have been VE learned in in a multitude of logs and some not. anyone feel free to suggest what you may change.

VE learn has suggested I need a whole lot of fuel 2600-3200 rpms at 35-70 map with numbers as high as 96-99. no vac leaks and a new heated GM NB sensor. charcoal canister disabled and no EGR(and in .bin). No DE either.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I haven't found this, where is it? or how does it work?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I use .7 seem to work well
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

The lower the number the more smoothing.. It is in the toolbox.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I would suggest that you do your smoothing while looking at the graph of the ve table and clicking on each inividual point and then dragging that area to where you want. That way you can see what map/rpm point you are smoothing without going over board in another area. Just my thoughts.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

Have you tried the smoothing built into the WUD? IT can be used stand-alone by starting a VE Learn then stopping it. The smaller the smoothing factor the less smoothing is done.

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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

I have not done any smoothing cept by hand and intepolating. But did play with it in TP yesterday and again will check out WUD as well. I looked at the graph and it was pretty rugged as a result of VE Learn only. Apparently the unlearned cells were causing the ruggedness so I wanted to make it look pretty(aka smooth).

So it seems you are saying the factor in WUD is opposite of TP ??
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Re: Tunerpro and smoothening the VE tables

Originally Posted by Ronny
So it seems you are saying the factor in WUD is opposite of TP ??
Yes, in the WUD a value of 0 is no smoothing. With an increase in smoothing as the factor is increased. I like starting with an 8 or 12 when first doing VE Learns. Then as the VE table comes together reduce the factor to the 6 to 4 range.

Note that the smoothing code in the WUD is different then that found in TP. With that the smooth factoring is also different.

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