so you can't datalog in park?
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so you can't datalog in park?
so I am about to start tuning for the first time, but there are a few things I still don't understand and searching hasn't layed out well.
after reading the tuning VE for 730 article. we talk about starting with the lower VE table. when I think about this, I imagine bringing the car out in the drive way, letting it warm up and go to closed loop. once in closed loop, start dataloging and walk the car up in rpm in 100 or 200 rpm increments holding each increment for 30 second or so for the blm to really level out and let me know what I need to adjust by.
after reading though it sounds like it won't learn a new blm without a VSS signal (ie car in drive). it will just stay in block 4 (can someone explain what this means?) if that is the case, then am I just supposed to drag the brakes to hold each rpm? that seems like a really bad idea.
also, I read that there is a highway mode that comes on and will lean out the the motor. is this active on a stock bin file for a 350? do I need to turn this off? what other things do i want turned off that will mess with base tuning. I know to tune at the same temp and then play with the MAT % change table to stay 128 in all weather conditions (my car is a summer fun only car though).
I no longer have a smog pump or egr and have made those corrections to the Bin as directd by the 730 tuning articles, so that should be no problem.
AE tables, how will this screw with the tuning? if the throttle is increased or decreased by a certain % then this will add fuel and spark, so if I real lightly increase and let off will I be ok? or since it is such an immediate increase, the change in afr will only be shown in the afr voltage log and not affect overall blm once holding the rpm right?
I am just being really careful as I don't have the money to rebuild this motor a second time. I'd rather take 5 years to tune the car completely than do something stupid for 5 seconds and blow the motor up!
after reading the tuning VE for 730 article. we talk about starting with the lower VE table. when I think about this, I imagine bringing the car out in the drive way, letting it warm up and go to closed loop. once in closed loop, start dataloging and walk the car up in rpm in 100 or 200 rpm increments holding each increment for 30 second or so for the blm to really level out and let me know what I need to adjust by.
after reading though it sounds like it won't learn a new blm without a VSS signal (ie car in drive). it will just stay in block 4 (can someone explain what this means?) if that is the case, then am I just supposed to drag the brakes to hold each rpm? that seems like a really bad idea.
also, I read that there is a highway mode that comes on and will lean out the the motor. is this active on a stock bin file for a 350? do I need to turn this off? what other things do i want turned off that will mess with base tuning. I know to tune at the same temp and then play with the MAT % change table to stay 128 in all weather conditions (my car is a summer fun only car though).
I no longer have a smog pump or egr and have made those corrections to the Bin as directd by the 730 tuning articles, so that should be no problem.
AE tables, how will this screw with the tuning? if the throttle is increased or decreased by a certain % then this will add fuel and spark, so if I real lightly increase and let off will I be ok? or since it is such an immediate increase, the change in afr will only be shown in the afr voltage log and not affect overall blm once holding the rpm right?
I am just being really careful as I don't have the money to rebuild this motor a second time. I'd rather take 5 years to tune the car completely than do something stupid for 5 seconds and blow the motor up!
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Re: so you can't datalog in park?
after reading though it sounds like it won't learn a new blm without a VSS signal (ie car in drive). it will just stay in block 4 (can someone explain what this means?) if that is the case, then am I just supposed to drag the brakes to hold each rpm? that seems like a really bad idea.
also, I read that there is a highway mode that comes on and will lean out the the motor. is this active on a stock bin file for a 350? do I need to turn this off?
what other things do i want turned off that will mess with base tuning.
AE tables, how will this screw with the tuning? if the throttle is increased or decreased by a certain % then this will add fuel and spark, so if I real lightly increase and let off will I be ok? or since it is such an immediate increase, the change in afr will only be shown in the afr voltage log and not affect overall blm once holding the rpm right?
I'd rather take 5 years to tune the car completely than do something stupid for 5 seconds and blow the motor up!
The WOT/PE stuff is where the quick damage comes from when the basics have not been done first.
Just remember, it will probably never be good enough.
I'm on 4 years and still counting
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