So i have got the laptop to run the tunerpro and read the ostrich and i can get it to romulate with the motor runnin but cant get the laptop to read the USB-ALDL for datalogging. I have found a shop that can tune the motor but its goin to be about a 4+ hour drive and ill have to trailer the truck there so i want to get the idle right and not be runnin so rich and idle......the more i can get done the less money ill have to spend the have it dyno tuned. Plus i have spent all this money on the ostrich and cable i need to learn to use it haha

The cable is from AKM electronics and i have a cd that came with it but i dont get any of the info thats on it. Im guessin i need to download some info for the laptop and tunerpro to use the cable?? Help!

 

Email me a snapshot of your com ports with everything connected and programs open.

 

i did a search and saw people talkin about the "com ports" sorry for being stupid but not sure what they are....UBS ports? the laptop has 2

 

Yes, the USB ports are part of the com ports, or will be assigned as such with items like the Ostrich and ALDL cables.

To find what devices are connected to what com port open the control panel, go to system, click on the hardware tab, and open device manager, then scroll down toe "Ports (Com and LPT)". In here it will show the currently active and connected ports. and what is connected to them. It won't likle say "Ostrich" but IIRC says something allong the lines of "FTDI device", sorry my Ostrich isn't near me to give you an exact phrase. I don't know what will be indicated from the AKM cable though, as I don't have one.

So that's:

START > Control Panel > System > Hardware Tab > Device Manager > Ports

Once you open the control panel, you may want to switch it to "classic view", there will be a line that says such. I find "classic view" easier to use.

Once you know the port that the datalogging cable is connected to, you can set that port in Tuner Pro.

In Tuner Pro:

Tool > Preferences > ALDL/Emulation

One other big thing is that you need a correct ADS file, which it sounds liek you are familar with opening in TP RT, so I won't go into detail there.

 

ok ill mess with the com ports and try to figure that part out today!

"you need a correct ADS file" whats the ADS file?
all i know is this...i open tunerpro. open the right xdf.8d for 730ecm. plug the ostrich cord into the usb and the other end into the ostrich and it beebs and turns green stating that hardwear is found. I can start the truck and click Emulation and it also turns green sayin im now emulating. but when i try to hookup the obd1/usb cord nothin happens or changes and i cant figure out how to datalog.
im new to this and with no one by my side to show me how its done im runnin blind and just using the trial and error method haha

 

The ads file is what deciphers the datastream coming through the ALDL connector.

It doesn't matter if the ports are set perfectly, without that ads file, your not going to datalog anything, since TP RT won't know what to look for.

The ads file is different for each code mask and some masks even have more than one data stream.

Look in teh stickies and use the search on here to determine which one is the correct one.

Sometimes looking through the moates.net file manager might have a file labled as something you recognize as matching your code mask and ECM.

Getting something like this set up the first time is the hardest, then after that it's easy because it's always the same process, just the files will change for other vehicles.

 

ok i got to the com port place and plugged in the aldl/usb cord and it pops up as "USB serial port(com6)" i pulled it out and put it in the other usb and its the same but "(com5)" so now that i know what the ports are i went to tunerpro and set the ALDL/usb to "com6".

whats next?
still i lil lost on the ads file.....how do i findout what my code mask is?

edit- i found out what a code mask is and i have the right one already. xdf.$8d for the "730" 90-92 camaro ecm.
now just need to know what the "ads" file is and how to find the right one?

 

for the defination files you need, go here,
http://www.moates.net/info_pages.php?pages_id=14
when you click on the link on that page, it will ask you for the user name and pass word.
User = moatesuser
Password = moatespassword

on the next page, look for,
4) Datastream Definitions
then look for,
FIRST THRID GEN 1227730.ads
thats the ADS file i use.

there is another one here,
http://www.tunerpro.net/downloadBinDefs.htm

 

my laptop is not connected to the net so ill have to load them to the desktop then transfer them......whats the best way to trasfer the info i need from the desktop to my laptop? will this stuff fit on a floppy and work that way?

 

USB "Thumb" drive would be the best way.

 

ok i have a usb thunb drive now. whats the best way to transfer the file from moates to the usb drive?

 

you can either save the files you need to the hard drive of your desktop and then move them to the USB drive or save them right to the USB drive.
then plug the USB drive into your laptop and move them from the USB to the laptop.

 

ok so i saved the "FIRST THRID GEN 1227730.ads " to the usb drive off this page
http://www.moates.net/fileman/index....%20Definitions
now i went to the laptop and opened tunerpro but not sure what i need to do to load the .ads file to tunerpro? i went to tools - aldl/date logging - setup but the .ads file is not in the Browse section. dout im even doin it right...im sick of tryin to figure this crap out! need help step by step so i can get this **** runnin

 

You will need to browse to the location you saved the ads file on the laptop.

If you saved it on the desktop, then you have to "browse to the desktop" in that window, then open the file from there.

I recommend creating a folder set up specifically for turning, that has seperate folders within, for .bins, .xdfs, .ads files, and any other information.

 

so i have saved 4 diff .ads files to the usb drive and tried all of them on the laptop and i still cant get the aldl to connect. the ostrich connects fine....what do i need to do next? this stuff sucks

 

im sure my com ports are right...i only have 2 usb ports and i tried movin the aldl cable to the other usb port and it wont even recegnize it. I go to tools the aldl/datalogging and setup the browser. makes no diff if the ign is on or the motor is runnin it still wont connect!

question once i get this thing up and runnin does the IGN have to be on for the laptop to connet to the ecm?

 

The Com port selection could be just about any port number, won't be 1 (that's usually for bonified serial ports). You need to go into your device manager and see what port is assigned to the cable. You can plug in the cable with the device manger open and the Com Ports tab expanded, to see what new com port pops up, if there are a few already shown. The device manager will automatically update as it sees new devices or they are removed.

Use that com port number in Tuner Pro RT. Test for the cable, but without it connected to the car, just the ALDL cable plugged into the laptop. You should get a "Cable found and functioning" pop up, once the cable is seen by TP RT. Load your .ads file, turn on the ignition of the car and connect.

Yes, you will need the ignition on for TP RT, to datalog or connect to the ECM.

 

ok i know the cable is com port 5 and the other is com port 6. so now how do i set the com port in the tunnerpro? i have searched all around in tools and cant seem to find anythin about com ports.....im stupid i know but after i do this all once ill know how to do it forever. tryin to figure it out the first time is the hard part haha thanks for helpin me out man

 

most of us have had to ask things like this, so don't sweat it.

in TunerPro, go to Tools, then Preferences.
select the ALDL/Emulation tab. below the "Test For Valid Cable" button and the "Interface Type" box, you should see the com port number box.

 

ok i checked it and its set for the right com port. i plugged in the aldl cable and hit the "test for valid cable" and i get "cable not found or not functioning (tested at 8192 boud)" does the cable have to be plugged into the aldl port with the key on in order for this test to work?

 

No, don't have the cable plugged into the ALDL port.

Do you have the type set for "Standard Serial"?

 

where do i need to go to check to see if its set for "Standard Serial"?

 

so i have done some reading and i see that the usb to Serial conversion box can mess with the tunerpro usb hookups....i didnt think my laptop had a Serial hookup but it does and i have the other part of the cable to make a Serial-aldl cable. what do i need to do to the com ports and/or aldl setup in tunnerpro to switch to serial aldl cable and get this POS tunerpro to work for dataloggin and RT tunnin at the same time?

 

Native serial ports will usually show up as Com port 1, so set that as the com port in TP RT, and test for the cable to verify.

 

plugged in the searial cable while i was in the divice maneger and it never pop up anythin new in the com ports. but i went to tunerpro anyways and changed the com port to com1 still cant get the laptop to take the ALDL....whats the next step to try? This should be a plug and play...sucks its being such a pain in the butt!