BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
Hi, been using the EBL for over 2 years now. I had everything running pretty good until this fall. I changed cap, rotor, ignition coil and the spark plugs. I also went from 0.045 to 0.060 for the plug gaps just to try. From that point on, I've been experiencing weird things. Immediately after that point, I had to re-tune the VE table and even bump the BPC table quite a bit to recenter the VE table. I finally got a good tune and last weekend again, way lean, I re-centered VE table again last night. I bumped the BPC table from 145 to something like 175 (don't have laptop here at the moment). I thought that was kinda weird. Anyway, I checked all the spark plugs and gaped them at 0.045 again. I also found some possible vacuum leaks from intake ports, so I replugged them. I also checked the fuel pressure last night and it's a solid 28lb.
Needless to say, I'm confused. For a 412CI engine, with the big Holley TBI 81# at 26lb, why is everything suddenly changing? My BPC table is way above what the EBL Utility calculates for. What could produce those variations? Nothing of the sort happened last winter.
Needless to say, I'm confused. For a 412CI engine, with the big Holley TBI 81# at 26lb, why is everything suddenly changing? My BPC table is way above what the EBL Utility calculates for. What could produce those variations? Nothing of the sort happened last winter.
Re: BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
Iam a firm believer to set the BPC table to the calculated value then forget it. If you are using a VAFPR then you could calculate it based on VAC(BPC vs VAC) through use of a Mighty Vac.
BLM will change with environmental temps. It is supposed to. However with IAT input it will respond better. I believe the IAT will change injector pulse width possibly before the NB02 sensor sees a need. Just a better resulting fueling. I see large swings in IAT temps mid summer early morn to late afternoon(70dF to 100+).
I once experience rising learned corrections(BLM) in VE table due to an exhaust leak before the NB02.
edit: I believe Holley rates their injectors at 26 lbs FP(not 12-13 GM).
BLM will change with environmental temps. It is supposed to. However with IAT input it will respond better. I believe the IAT will change injector pulse width possibly before the NB02 sensor sees a need. Just a better resulting fueling. I see large swings in IAT temps mid summer early morn to late afternoon(70dF to 100+).
I once experience rising learned corrections(BLM) in VE table due to an exhaust leak before the NB02.
edit: I believe Holley rates their injectors at 26 lbs FP(not 12-13 GM).
Re: BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
the way I filled the BPC utility is I used a 61# injector and put 26# fuel pressure, that gives me about the 84# overall that Holley calls for. With the other numbers in there I should be using a BPC table of 115. That's how I started when I first setup the EBL, and realized it was way lean and would reach 100% VE everywhere. That's when I started using the BPC trick to center the VE tables. I had been using 135 until last June, then I moved it to 145 this fall, and now am using 174. So my BPC needed to be raised by 40 points so I could use the same VE table. How can that be? I do run an IAT, and the table for IAT vs CTS is all at 100% CTS as I have no idea what to do with that. Also, I have to figure out about the Proportional Gain stuff to get my idle back to normal.
I'm thinking, for the fueling to be that screwed up (leaner) there must be a mechanical problem somewhere. Maybe the IAC is stuck open or something?
I'm thinking, for the fueling to be that screwed up (leaner) there must be a mechanical problem somewhere. Maybe the IAC is stuck open or something?
Re: BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
I do run an IAT, and the table for IAT vs CTS is all at 100% CTS
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Re: BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
Check the items you changed right before this issue occurred. With changing the cap & plug the spark plug wires may not be on the correct cylinders. It doesn't take much to throw the tune off.
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Re: BPC vs VAC table needs increased with temp changes
I do run an IAT, and the table for IAT vs CTS is all at 100% CTS as I have no idea what to do with that.
It should show a smaller calculated BPC at 0 VAC(100MAP) and the largest at 90 VAC(10 MAP).
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