Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
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Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Hello. 87 tpi with 165 ecm. Was checking to make sure my ecm was indeed a 165 to get correct definition stream. Removed memcal out of curiosity. Put back in. Now engine stalls after 2 or 3 seconds. I did attempt to datalog last night for the first time ever. For what it's worth. Please help with any ideas!
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
When I turn the ignition on the fans turn on almost as if I am entering aldl mode. I can't tell if I caused this problem by messing with the memcal or by data logging last night
Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
At this point, recommend visual inspection of the memcal and socket looking for damage and/or bent pins. Then unplug the ECM, re connect it and try again.
Is this a factory memcal? No chip adapters or anything?
Is this a factory memcal? No chip adapters or anything?
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Everything looks in order. This is I believe an ADS superchip. No adapters.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Are you saying my bin was erased from 30 or so seconds of exposure to the sun?
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Car: 84 TA orig. 305 LG4 "H" E4ME
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
ESD - Electro Static Discharge. You might have fried the chip just by handling it.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
That is the typical symptoms of a PROM error. It's trying to run on the limp mode resistor network. Fan always on and hard starting/stalling is symptoms that the ECM wasn't able to read the chip.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Did you re-install the chip correctly, (did not rotate it 180 degrees) or bend a pin over?
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Going to check wiring and grounds tomorrow for now.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Yes I was careful with it when I installed it and everything looks in order. I may have removed it incorrectly because I know I used a screwdriver so perhaps I did fry the chip
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
Even with an emulator you are going to want to burn a chip once you are done tuning (for the moment) the emulator is great but you won't want to have it installed all the time.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
but i agree once I'm done tuning ill get some eeproms and burn a semi-permanent chip.
thanks man
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
chip burning supplies arrived today from Moates... will first burn a chip with a stock bin and see if the car runs.
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Re: Stalls after removing/re-inserting chip
I fried the memcal.
TunedPerformance sent me a replacement memcal and it runs great. No codes. Now time to tune
TunedPerformance sent me a replacement memcal and it runs great. No codes. Now time to tune










