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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 10:48 AM
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Airflow units in TP

Question... there are three tables in TP having to do with response to the O2 sensor which are based on airflow. The airflow seems to go from 0 to 64, but I can't find what units it's in.

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0x4CF Loop Closed Param, NOT Idling Prop Step Size Gain Multiplier .vs. Air Flow

0x4BD Loop Closed Param, SLOW o2 INT Delay Time .vs. Air Flow

0x4C6 Loop Closed Param, SLOW o2 Lag Filtering Coefficient .vs. Air Flow

When I open the detailed description and look at the units, it just says "airflow".

The only place where airflow units are actually stated is in the Inv MAT table where it says gm/sec. But that one goes from 0 to 256.
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 12:40 PM
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Re: Airflow units in TP

For some reason i thought they were gm/sec as well and only goes up to 64, not sure why but my guess was at lower air flows the o2 sensor reading mattered more as exhaust gas mass and volume is less, so more susceptible to idle and low throttle overlap events? Maybe emissions related tuning
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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64 g/sec and an average air density of about 1 kg/cm^3 density at sea level, translates to only ~133 CFM if I'm doing the math correctly.

On a 350 (assuming say 50% VE for part throttle operation), that translates to ~2600 rpm, again if I'm doing the math correctly.

As you assume less %VE, the rpm will go up for the same 133 CFM, but that only means that these O2 tables are really only addressing lower and lower throttle openings as you get higher in RPM?

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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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This is likely due to being in PE mode (open loop) once above that airflow.

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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 12:07 PM
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Re: Airflow units in TP

Originally Posted by ULTM8Z
Question... there are three tables in TP having to do with response to the O2 sensor which are based on airflow. The airflow seems to go from 0 to 64, but I can't find what units it's in.

Addresses are...

0x4CF Loop Closed Param, NOT Idling Prop Step Size Gain Multiplier .vs. Air Flow

0x4BD Loop Closed Param, SLOW o2 INT Delay Time .vs. Air Flow

0x4C6 Loop Closed Param, SLOW o2 Lag Filtering Coefficient .vs. Air Flow

When I open the detailed description and look at the units, it just says "airflow".

The only place where airflow units are actually stated is in the Inv MAT table where it says gm/sec. But that one goes from 0 to 256.
Yes, the latest XDF (S_AUJP v6-4a.XDF) only shows "Airflow". Sometime after that release, the Row Units descriptors of the 3 items above were changed to "Flow (gm/sec)". That and many other changes will be provided in an imminent release. Note that XDF files are a work-in-progress resulting from code review. The S_AUJP $8d XDF is believed to be the most complete of any XDF currently available. Much of that initial work can be attributed to JP86SS.

Also believe what RBob said regarding airflow and OL.

HTH, Elky
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 04:54 PM
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Re: Airflow units in TP

Ok, thanks guys.
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