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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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headlight relay

where is the headlight relay for the drivers side 87 firebird
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
Engine: LS1, 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
Your car doesn't have relays, headlight motor functions are controlled by a computer module located near the firewall.

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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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then what would couse just the drivers side light to not work the motor doesnt work at all
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
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The motor itself may be bad. The module can break/malfunction in a way that only one side works. Check to see if the motor itself is shot. If can hear it running when the lights are on then its stripped out.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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so where is this computer and how do i check it thanks
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
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It should be near the brake booster, near the fuel pump relay, MAF relays, by the driver side firewall. I'm not sure how to check it. I hear it seems to go bad easily though. I have a '85 with the relay stlye so I don't hve to deal with it. Best way is to make sure the motors are good and the wiring is good. Check the fusible links. Make sure there is power at the red wires at all times (+12 volts)

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
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so if i am not going computer controlled then the headlight motors wont raise? well my lights come on but they wont raise? whats up?
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
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Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
'82-'86 models used a relay system.
The headlight motors on the '87-'92 models used a control module to control the motors. Without the module working properly the motors won't work. The '87-'92 motors are also prone to breaking down themselves. The nylon gearing or the bushings will break and the motor will cease to operate. All you'll get is the motor making a wining noise as it trys to move the headlight up or down.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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well i dont have a noise when i turn the switch on and they both worked when I started tearing into the car.
wheres this module and how will i be able to check it?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
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Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
It should be near the brake booster, near the fuel pump relay, on the driver side firewall. I'm not sure how to check it. I hear it seems to go bad easily though. I have a '85 with the relay style so I don't hve to deal with it. Best way is to make sure the motors are good and the wiring is good. Check the fusible links. Make sure there is power at the red wires at all times (+12 volts)

Hope this helps,

Matt
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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The headlight door contol module has two fuseable links inside on the control board. I had one blown a couple of years ago and the passenger light door stopped working. I repaired that and just the other day the drivers side stopped working and the other fusable link had blown. I found a used control module on E-Bay and that fixed the problem.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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perhaps a wiring diagram would help:

http://www.p71interceptor.com/thirdg...lampdoor87.jpg

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