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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Fuel pump relay problem.

All right. Now I am getting pissed. I have been working on my 89 5.0 TBI Camaro for over a year now. I am not receiving any fuel at the TBI. I have checked and verified that I am getting signals at the injectors. I have dropped the tank and fixed the rubber hose from the pump to the fuel line. It was severely corroded. I have replaced the oil pressure sensor switch and the fuel filter and I am still getting no fuel. The car does not fire. I pour gas into the throttle body and it runs until the gas is gone. I belive that the problem is now the fuel pump relay has been fried. There is a lot of black grease looking stuff on the relay and the connector. I can find a relay very easily and cheap. I am sure that you all know that though. My question is where would I find the connector for the relay? I have searched for this and cannot find anything on it. Or is there a way to cleann all of that crap off of the connector? i have read other posts where people have replaced the relay with an aftermarket relay. I am just trying to get the car to run so I am not sure if the aftermarket relay is the way that I need to go. Sorry that this is so long but I want to make sure that I covered everything. Thank you all for your time and help in advance.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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You can use a solvent to clean the dirty grease from teh relay connector. Once it is cleaned and thoroughly dried, apply a fresh coating of clear silicone dielectric grease to the connections to prevent moisture and corrosion.

An aftermarket relay should work just fine.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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While your at it, check the wires on the connector. Over time the insulation slides down exposing bare copper wire which may ground out and cause some problems.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Better yet, If none of the above helps you out.

I just spent the past week trying to find a electrical
problem in my fuel pump relay/circuit that did'nt even
exist.. It was the fuel pump the whole time

My car also started and ran on carb spray for a few
moments before it ran out, I reccomend you check
the pump, they go out when they feel like it.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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You are right John. The insulation has slid down and is exposing the wires. That is another reason that I am thinking about replacing the connector as well.
Vader, what aftermarket relay would work? Or where would you recommend that I look for one?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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I have a 92 rs 305 tbi that I am transplantinng to 385ci. Our fuel pump relay was the second one on the drivers side. We just had to ground it I believe to get the fuel pump to activate. On to the rest of the electrical gremlins.



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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Ok. Here we go again. I went to my nearest dealership and bought a new fuel pump relayand actually got a new connector for it too. If anybody needs the part number for it let me know. I replaced both and my car is still not starting. The only thing that I an think of is that all of this work I have been doing and cycling the pump is that I burnt out the relay and the pump. If I am wrong then please elt me know your opinion. I do not hear the pump priming either. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Sounds like you blew the ecm fuse, does the ses light come on when you try to start the car?
Check all the fusable links as well.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Jack the rear, run 12v to the pump directly at the plug (there is a plug connection just in front of the tank) and see if the pump runs.

pump runs - then go back to the OPSU - disconnect the connector from OPSU and directly connect the pins with a small piece of wire to see if bypassing it makes pump run - if so, then it's the OPSU again, if not, then it's a bad wire between OPSU and pump.

pump doesn't run - with 12v directly to the connector at tank, then it's the pump.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Like I said, thank you. I will check that tomorrow.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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I found the best sets of relay connectors I found in the yard. luckily the yard i go to has 20 3rd gens. Out of those 20 only two had ussable, and not on the same car lol.

Change the connector to a different style/. the whole relay comes apart. since ya got a new one....isn't there a fusible link for the fp?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by richardsruru
You are right John. The insulation has slid down and is exposing the wires. That is another reason that I am thinking about replacing the connector as well.
Vader, what aftermarket relay would work? Or where would you recommend that I look for one?

look at the top ofthe relay for a schematic symbol of the relay itself, or go to the yard and find one that has the schematic on top. its your standard 12v duall pole 3 terminal one side normally connected, other side normally open, . just gotta make it fit.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Ok. Finally an update. I connected 12V to the connector just in front of the fuel tank. I did not know which pin but it doesn't really matter. I connected the wire to all three connections. The pump did not run. Upon connecting the wire to the connections one of them sparked. I assume that this is the ground. I am now going to buy a fuel pump, strainer, filter and a new gasket just to be safe. I dropped the tank before and only fixed a small piece of rubber tubing between the fuel pump and the metal fuel line. I now realize that I should have replaced the fuel pump. Oh well. If anybody has any other recomendations of other things that I should replace while I am in there please let me know. Thanks.
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