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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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kill switch wiring

Where do I get and how do I wire a kill switch to a 1990 RS? I hear 3rd gens get stolen a lot and stolen easily. The last owner of my RS almost got his radio stolen and I have a jammed pass door key lock to prove it. I'm thinkin of cutting of ignition power to the coil when the switch is armed.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

fuel pump is a good place to wire a kill switch to if its efi bolth will do the trick
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:06 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Originally Posted by rs90 driver
Where do I get and how do I wire a kill switch to a 1990 RS? I hear 3rd gens get stolen a lot and stolen easily. The last owner of my RS almost got his radio stolen and I have a jammed pass door key lock to prove it. I'm thinkin of cutting of ignition power to the coil when the switch is armed.
For less than $10, you can get a switch and some wire and disable the ECM behind the fuse block with the switch. It will not start, even with the key to the car. The dash will light up and it looks like it will start, but it won't. Double bonus in that you don't have to disconnect the battery to reset ECM codes. It's also VATS friendly and makes a good back-up to the original system. It's a 10 minute job that in my opinion would drive thieves without flatbeds crazy! GTA should be a capital offense!
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

If your vats is still functioning whats the point. you already have a kill switch and fuel disable device in the car.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

i thought the VATS was enough protection
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

vats is easily bypassed
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

so you are telling me a person can use a screw driver pop out my lock, tear off the column plastic and do "something to disable the VATS" and drive away in 60 seconds or less?

How? proof is in the pudding my friend.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

We don't give any info out, it will
give more people the know how
to steal your car
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Originally Posted by KCGTA
For less than $10, you can get a switch and some wire and disable the ECM behind the fuse block with the switch. It will not start, even with the key to the car. The dash will light up and it looks like it will start, but it won't. Double bonus in that you don't have to disconnect the battery to reset ECM codes. It's also VATS friendly and makes a good back-up to the original system. It's a 10 minute job that in my opinion would drive thieves without flatbeds crazy! GTA should be a capital offense!
How would you wire something like this up?

Thanks,

-Tim-
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

ryan why tear the plastic off the column when u can just pop out the plastic piece around the key switch to get to the vats wire
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

ya but i thought if there was no signal to the VATS then the engine won't turn. do you have to give it some juice to get a signal?
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

ur key has a resistor for the vats i think theres about 15 different key if i remember right and what if a thief has an adjustable resistor circuit that he attaches to these 2 wires until the car starts and im not going to tell you how to make this device but they have them take my word on it
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Originally Posted by royslsbry
ur key has a resistor for the vats i think theres about 15 different key if i remember right and what if a thief has an adjustable resistor circuit that he attaches to these 2 wires until the car starts and im not going to tell you how to make this device but they have them take my word on it
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Originally Posted by Imadude_134
How would you wire something like this up?

Thanks,

-Tim-
Very easily, Tim. Just unscrew the fuse panel from the kick panel. Drop the panel down and cut the wire going to the ECM fuse. Run a wire from both ends of the new cut wires you just made to a switch hidden anywhere you choose in the car. It's pretty simple to do. The trick is hiding all the new wire.

Hey, I almost had this car stolen from me with some punk trying to use the screwdriver technique. Though VATS saved me waking to an empty spot in my parking lot, as stated by others, those who know can bypass it easily. Any extra measure I can take to help thwart some punk thief I'll do. They got to earn it if they're gonna take it. I also have a good alarm on it. Like I said, it would be easier to put it on a flatbed rather than try to figure out how to get it to start. I've also been known to take the coil wire out of my car, yes **** I know, but I love my car, it's irreplacable- too much sentimental value for me!

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

but what if you have a line lock and keep the front locked. i bet that would slow them down. as long as the pressure would stay. which it should. but a kill switch is better!
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Can someone tell me what a "VATS" is?
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Vehicle Anti Theft System.

It's a resister in the key. The computer must read the correct resistance value otherwise the ignition and fuel lock down, to keep the car from being hotwired.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

oh, i don't have it that's why i dont know what it is. My 82 is just a plain ol' GM key
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Re: kill switch wiring

Originally Posted by royslsbry
ur key has a resistor for the vats i think theres about 15 different key if i remember right and what if a thief has an adjustable resistor circuit that he attaches to these 2 wires until the car starts and im not going to tell you how to make this device but they have them take my word on it
the vats system goes into a sleep mode for 4-10 minutes after a wrong resistance is read so it's not as easy as just trying another resistance and the car starts.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Re: kill switch wiring

If the VATS reads the wrong resistance in the key, when you turn the key what will happen?

On mine, sometimes when I turn the key, it just clicks once, turn the key again, click once. Turn the key again and it starts. Would that be a VATS issue? or something different?
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