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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

I have a 1989 RS Camaro. If I put a fuse in the ACC port on the fuse panel, I get the locks, mirrors and interior lites to work, but the lites won't shut off unless i pull the fuse but no matter what the horn still won't work. I can't find a fuse for courtesy lites or the horn. I turned the headlight switch and pushing in the door switches and the interior lites stay on. I'm lost. Any help would be appreciated
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

Might be broken/missing wire from the door switches - when the door is opened, they provide a ground for the lights. One of the door switches might be messed up and allowing the ground to remain after all the doors are shut. Did you close the hatch as well? I don't remember if dome light comes on with hatch or not.

I want to think the horn is on a seperate fuse, but I'm not sure.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

The mirror lites stay on also. I have the headliner out getting re-done so i can't test the overhead lite. I redid a 1969 Firebird awhile back, and i figured out the electrical in that car, but this one has me stumped. Thanks
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

Yes, you have a bad switch. Most likely one of the door switches, but could also be the headlight switch.

The horn is on the same circuit, but it's a different problem. Your horn problem is most likely the relay, but you'll have to check. Start looking for power at the horns and work your way back to the horn button.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

just get new fuses. its a whole new car after you install them
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

I pulled and looked at all fuses and they are good and also tested the 2 30 amp silver fuses which were also good. Any other thoughts?
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

Inot sure. I put all new fuses in. I didn't reuse any old fuses. Sometimes fuse testers aren't very accurate. That's just what I've learned.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Light Fright

Originally Posted by roundy
the lites won't shut off unless i pull the fuse
If you followed camaronewbie’s advice but the interior lights still stay on you have a short to ground involving the WHITE wire from one of the door pin switches or coming out of the headlight switch.

Follow the WHITE wire till you find where it’s insulation has rubbed thru and touching ground.

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Originally Posted by camaronewbie
I don't remember if dome light comes on with hatch or not.
No, it doesn’t.

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Originally Posted by roundy
no matter what the horn still won't work
Connect a voltmeter to pin J of the horn relay, what is the reading on the voltmeter?

Now press the horn button on the steering wheel, now what is the reading on the voltmeter?


Happy Racing!



How bout those too scared to drive without headlights in the daytimeand the ones that need headlights for a little rain


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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

Where is the horn relay anyway?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Light Fright

Remove the knee bolster.

The relay is to the right of the steering column.


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How bout those too scared to drive without headlights in the daytimeand the ones that need headlights for a little rain


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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

only found the plug in where the code tester could be plugged into
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Light Fright

This pic should help:

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The color of the relay varies.


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8 Wheels Corner Better Than 4, If You’re On The Outside You Have Fair Warning

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

thanks for the pic, but its not there. any other ideas?
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Invisible Relay

Because you can’t find the relay look for a 20 AWG black wire coming out of one of the steering column connectors.

It’s a flattish connector with an 11 wire capacity.

Trace the wire to the relay, or to where the wire stops because the PO removed it.

Once you see how much the PO removed we can tell you how to reinstall it.


Happy Racing!



How bout those too scared to drive without headlights in the daytimeand the ones that need headlights for a little rain


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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Re: power locks, mirrors, interior lites, horn

not sure if you may have same problem i had just getting a different result ..mine kept burning the fuse after about 10 seconds....found out the cigarette lighter was shorting everything out or at least cuasing electrical problems with that part of the system...try unplugging the lighter from the back and see if that helps
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 12:52 PM
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Re: Light Fright

Trying to find my horn relay, but there is nothing there either.
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