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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Throttle Kicker Relay aka Idle Stop Solenoid Location?

Hey guys, I have an '83 Firebird with the LG4 and E4ME carburetor. I'm looking for the Throttle Kicker Relay in my engine compartment to wire up the power bulge hood scoop I acquired. I know it goes to the solenoid that pops out and raises the idle speed when the A/C is engaged, now it says in the wiring diagram that there's a brown/white wire coming from that relay that goes to the oil pressure switch, but it's labeled "Trans Am only". I was hoping to find the throttle kicker relay to see if there's a free terminal I could wire from or not, but I can't trace the wiring as it's still factory going into the loom and behind the motor where I cannot reach. The factory Pontiac service manual only says "LH Side of Engine Cowl" ...not sure where that would be.

Can anyone tell me where this relay is, or even if it possibly has the unused terminal that I can wire to the hood scoop solenoid? If not, I am thinking wiring it to the choke wire so it only gets 12v once the engine is warm and the choke is closed, do you think this would work?

Any help locating the throttle kicker relay or thoughts on putting it on the choke's wire would be much appreciated!

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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Re: Throttle Kicker Relay aka Idle Stop Solenoid Location?

Originally Posted by graywolfman
I have an '83 Firebird with the LG4 and E4ME carburetor. I'm looking for the Throttle Kicker Relay in my engine compartment
Whether an 83 Bird and an 85 Camaro are different or not, I'm uncertain, but in the following pic the relay can be seen (the far right one) on the driver's side cowl:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...rics-relay.jpg

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...ctrics-ign.jpg

The following 1983 wiring diagram might be useful as well (Check the lower left for the throttle kicker relay):

http://www.austinthirdgen.org/mkport...ine_wiring.gif

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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Re: Throttle Kicker Relay aka Idle Stop Solenoid Location?

Unfortunately it is different, I do not see any of those relays on my car. I do have that wiring diagram (actually I have one with the Trans Am section added). I also found a picture of the relay (included), but I still can't actually find it on the car.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Throttle Kicker Relay aka Idle Stop Solenoid Location?



Here is the answer if it still need! from a 85 Firebird manual.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Re: Throttle Kicker Relay aka Idle Stop Solenoid Location?

I actually found it, It is up by the MAP sensor, mounted on the firewall. Ended up the relay was working fine, it was the ECM. Bought a replacement at Autozone, put in the PROM, everything's good now! Thanks for the replies guys!!
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