After talking with the owner, Lawrence Bush, he sent me this info and asked me to spread the word. Classic LEDs now carries LED tail light kits for 71-92 firebirds and this includes the different styles of third gen tail lights. Pricing info is in the attachments as well as the mods needed for early firebird tail lights. A group buy discount is available if you guys would like to set something up. If more then one is ordered, $25 off per item, and, if shipped to one address, free shipping. Five or more, $25 off and free shipping to each US address. If you have any questions let me know. Thanks

Dont mind the file names, they arent exactly accurate so youll have to just view the files.

 

Thanks...going to check this out...I am not too far away from him

 

Not a problem, im glad i could help out.

 

Does his email work? I sent an email and it bounced back. Hi email worked, the copy/paste function dropped a character from his address...wierd

 

Is this a new direction from your other thread, or are you still working on a different set?

 

mrrman -

blacksunshine - The other thread was for a different company. I figured it was worth the time finding something else and spreading the word since these are ready to go.

 

Im in for one...was given a quote for

Sequential System $ 269.95 With Reverse Light
Sequential System $ 249.95
Non Sequential System $ 239.95 With Reverse Light

Non Sequential System $ 209.95

I would like the

Sequential System $ 269.95 With Reverse Light

 

Sounds good. Lets see if anyone else wants to get in on anything. If at any time someone wants to just buy one on their own thats fine. I think i was told shipping for one alone is like $11.

 

Linking this thread to the Appearance forum might generate more interest.

I appreciate the efforts for getting something like this on the market. They're nice, but it seems like they could've been developed more thoroughly. Hopefully it's ok to post some constructive thoughts.

For the 82-84 Firebird/82-90 Trans Am(<--- read that carefully)(pic shows the 85-90 TA grid lense[appears it won't work with 91-92 TAs]), there are two empty horizontal rows on the LED board, and they appear to create dead lines in the grid. If the LED board was full, no blanks, then I think the finished product would look more "right."

The 85-92 Firebird taillights are more complicated. The reds are perfect, no blanks in the LED board, filling the entire red lense, looks nice and full. But the amber and reverse sections have just a few bulbs set deeply behind the lenses, making them look like singlular large bulbs, rather than LEDs. I think the amber and reverse lenses would look better more fully-lit.

For the non-sequential system, it says "uses two amber LED boards with 24 LEDs on EACH side for the turn signal." I see 12 LEDs on one board in the pic, so that's one board in each amber section + two amber sections per taillight = 24 LEDs per taillight, just as it says. Does that mean both amber boards will flash in each taillight(hopefully)? Stock, only one bulb flashes, so that's why I'm asking. With both flashing on each side, they could make the ambers sequential, and I think this very common, but much disliked taillight might become appealing.

With the sequential system, I'm assuming it completely elimates the use of the amber sections, and the taillights will act as TA lights, where all stop/tail/turn actions occur within the red sections? So the ugly amber lenses will now also be useless too lol. Perhaps they could be painted on the inside with transparent orange, yellow + orange = red, making them more asthetically pleasing, looking similar to the other red lenses in the taillights, and they could be "reflectors." Blacking-them-out wouldn't look good, unless blacking-out the entire taillight, and I think that's illegal(though people do it).

Again, I appreciate the efforts. They're nice. And given that they're the only products of their kind on the market, they'll probably be successful--and I hope they are, as the points I mentioned might be moot to most people. But for me, I don't know; I'll have to think about it. It seems like a few more minutes of thought might've made them better.

 

Why dont you contact the MFG of these units and see what he has to say. Maybe he can post his comments here so other members can weigh in also. Just a thought. I have an 87 TA GTA so what has been made for my car will suit me fine, as long as I have all the current colors and functions.

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/IMG_3293.jpg

 

Since the links posted by Adrenaline have pics, it looks like the products have already been completed. So it's not likely the mfg would change them unless he knows it will generate more sales. But at this early stage of availability, he's probably just hoping for some sales, just to make it worth his while to keep the product available.

No worries, really. I was just kind of thinking out loud lol. If he sees it or hears about it, ok, if not, that's ok too. I've lived with my stock taillights for 25 years. It won't kill me to not spend $300 and keep them for awhile longer... or forever.

 

It wouldnt hurt. I mean, if you dont want to i can if it helps everyone. I have to stake in these at all beyond wanting people to get some LED tail lights. He may be open to making changes on any new ones he makes if people have suggestions.

 

Apparently these are not new. Found this video on youtube, posted 2-1/2 years ago, Classic LEDs on an '83 Trans Am. So this is how '85-'90 TAs would look too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TorluvI-93I

 

Actually that was a custom fabbed set that guy put in his third gen. That vid was one of the reasons i even decided to contact him. Trust me, ive talked with the guy who makes them enought to know he just started making them. The first prototype set went to some guy in like switzerland.

 

First off id like to thank anyone who has put in any input thus far and/or shown interest. I asked Mr. Bush about the two missing rows in the LEDs and why he went with one board and here is his response. If you have any other questionsor input pleasesk and i will either answer or get the info. Just so everyone knows Mr. Bush will be out of his office for a little over a week so please be patient with responses to questions. Thanks

"The original design was to have only the center section do the sequence, thus the spacing. However, several Firebird restoration shops did not like this.........I still do like this and, when reordering, may add this design with the option. That would be a major change however."

"The reason for one rather the three sections was consumer feed back. My first 79/81 ( I still have them) was a three section system. Owner wanted one long board like others I have. For the sequence, the three sections one looked good. But with the brakes on, then entire lens lights up with no breaks between section."

 

I DIG 'EM!

 

Good to hear! They are pretty nice and the owner is a stand up guy. If you want a set lmk and ill send you his way.

 

I just emailed him! Thank you, Sir. My bird is really coming together. Just got the 3M tint and going to toss it on the windows this weekend, hopefully my murdered out exhaust tips will come in too and I'll be having fun with a Sawzall and welding gear and then I have to fix my tail lights which are all cracked. I'll order LEDs for the Marker lights tonight. After all that dive into the interior! Every night after work and every weekend I'm on that Chicken!

 

Sounds good! My car is an ongoing project as well and i love it.

 

 

Are those classics? Looks good. Im finishing up the mods on my housings and ill get some pics up. If anyone has any questions lmk.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O6nM67pHng

 

yes i had larry bushes tail lights in my car since 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TorluvI-93I

 

Ah, i forgot about your car. Sorry

You had a custom set or something made, right?

 

i was the prototype tester for 1982-1984 trans am tail lights back in 2009 aka mule car. back when the camaro led tail light craze hit thirdgen and then disappeared

 

Yeah i have a set of his that im testing out and so far they are great. Its taking longer than expected but im swamped with school and im trying to make the housings look really nice.

 

KITT1993 - Are you happy with them? I'm in touch with the owner of Classic LED, Larry, great dude, and right on the edge of making an order. I want the sequential as well for my '89 Bird but after seeing your video...I don't think they look too good. They are slow. It looks like some LEDs are missing or out. Especially in the right and left corners. Do they look better in person? I just checked the ClassicLED Youtube callsgn "restoreamusclecar" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWYu0eRjN7Q and they have a 2nd Gen Bird showing both sequential and non-sequential and, my opinion was the non-sequential actually looked better. Please tell me I'm wrong and that its Super Bad-***!

 

The sequential kits come with a button so you can turn it off.

Also, the newer ones dont have that staggered look to the LEDs at the ends like KITTs do.

A lot of it has to do with the housings you use as well.

 

my unit is an older design it is the 1977 -81 led board and i am very happy with them

my unit was a protoype unit for the thirdgens KARR's

 

you will have to make that choice not me

 

Adrenaline1 - I'm literally about to pull the trigger and order these and wanted to have one more look at them. So the latest ones do not look like LEDs are missing in the corner? The sequential for my Formula will delete the amber light. Do you have photos/videos of yours?

 

I can take pictures of the actual lights but i dont have them in the car right now. lmk and ill take some.

 

Maybe, I'll hold off. When you stick them on, I think a lot of people would be interested in seeing how they look. Please post photos/video of them in all modes of operation ie tail lights, brake lights, blinkers and hazards.

 

Quick vid of those who wanted to see the boards and what not. I dont have them in the housings right now but will soon. Forgive any excessive taking or rambling. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmrXd...tJYsB9BJQREA0=

 

I also forgot to mention there will be up to a ten day wait time for new orders while current orders get filled. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause but there has been a large demand for firebird tail light kits.

Thanks

 

do they carry the GTA style leds? like this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3IbxzZEDgk

 

Ill check and get back with you ASAP. Thanks

 

Also curious about the 91-92 GTA taillights...if they do, I'll be ordering them.

 

At this time there are not tail lights available for the 91-92 GTA housings. HOWEVER, if someone has a housing they would be willing to send to him for test fitting he said he would try and get something going. This is a first come, first served kind of thing. If you guys need anything else just lmk. Thanks

 

Did you put them on yet? I'm real curious to see what they look like on the car. As soon as you install them please get a video on YouTube so I can make a decision on whether or not to purchase them. Thanks.

 

He made my LED tail lights, I've just been waiting for my tax refund to contact them for final payment/shipping arrangements. Taking a while, hope they don't audit me! lol

 

punisher - At the very least i should have them in the housings within a few days. The car is a little ways away from me right now (because of school) so i have to plan a day to go and install them.

ozz - Nice! Audits arent fun but they also arent a common thing for most people so i wouldnt be to worried.

 

You're the man, thanks. Just re-did the entire cooling system and picking my leather seats up at the frieght terminal tomorrow so I'm busy when I'm off work! I'd amped to see them installed!

 

Sorry im a little late on the video, ive been busy with school, work, and my internship. Anyway, the vid is processing on youtube and ill post up a link when its done. Thanks

 

Finally got the vid working, that was a royal PITA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykEdF...ature=youtu.be

At some point im going to try and get the lights in my 82 housings as well to see how they look. Since those housings dont have grids im sure itll look a lot different.

 

Just posted on your youtube video also. Can't wait to see the finished product for a 1987-1989 Pontiac GTA, which looks like the test board in your youtube video. I am looking for the LED's to look completely stock, just LED lighting with the sequential turn signal option. I am interested in seeing the final results video at night, showing the sequential bulbs, running lights and brake lights as well as the reverse lights. The install looks pretty simple too but I would add a quick install video as well. I know you would sell a lot of these units to GTA owners. I would post the finished vid's and price/ordering on the GTA forum too. Good luck with the finished product. I have been looking for these for a while. I have them in my Vette and love them, and I think the bright LED's and Sequential lights on a GTA would give it a modern look to a classic car.

 

How do they look installed from the back end? I would like to see a pic as to how they are held in. Thanks

 

Mine just shipped, should have them by next weekend (Takes a week to get them here in the UK) and hopefully, with some luck, they'll get installed, though I do have a Softball Tournament so that could get in the way. I'll post pics as soon as I get them in.

 

Ozz1967 - they have softball over there? Or are you just too embarrassed to say Cricket?! J/k mate!

Working a couple deals to get a LED digital dash first, then I order my LED taillights next!

 

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